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    So mocking Christianity is the name of the game. Same game that has been played since Christianity came about. So you don't believe, then don't. And please don't mind if some us do. I always ask the question: You don't believe in Christianity and God. So what happens when the Christians are proven correct and you wrong. You have some really bad problems ahead. But if the Christians are wrong and you are right. Who will know?

    Oh, and most Christians really don't mind if you don't believe, we welcome all who want to. We just don't like to be mocked just because you don't want to join us.

    Have a great day and better week.

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    So mocking Christianity is the name of the game. Same game that has been played since Christianity came about. So you don't believe, then don't. And please don't mind if some us do. I always ask the question: You don't believe in Christianity and God. So what happens when the Christians are proven correct and you wrong. You have some really bad problems ahead. But if the Christians are wrong and you are right. Who will know?

    Oh, and most Christians really don't mind if you don't believe, we welcome all who want to. We just don't like to be mocked just because you don't want to join us.

    Have a great day and better week.
    And us people who don't like religion don't like to be mocked or judged but still do.

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    So what happens when the Christians are proven correct and you wrong. You have some really bad problems ahead. But if the Christians are wrong and you are right. Who will know?
    What happens if you're wrong about which god though? By not believing in the wrong god, I will have likely pissed real god off much less than you have by worshipping a false god.

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    What happens if you're wrong about which god though? By not believing in the wrong god, I will have likely pissed real god off much less than you have by worshipping a false god.
    truth bomb

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    I think the question depends on the type of person you are dealing with, or rather what social context that person is in. Atheism does not work for everyone, IMO.
    In the public domain, atheism absolutely would work for everyone.

    Prayers in school, God's name on money, taking oaths on a Bible etc do not work for everyone.

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    So mocking Christianity is the name of the game. Same game that has been played since Christianity came about. So you don't believe, then don't. And please don't mind if some us do.
    I don't mind that you do in the same way I don't mind people believing in fortune tellers.

    I always ask the question: You don't believe in Christianity and God. So what happens when the Christians are proven correct and you wrong. You have some really bad problems ahead. But if the Christians are wrong and you are right. Who will know?
    Please tell me what will happen if Christians are right and I am wrong.

    Oh, and most Christians really don't mind if you don't believe, we welcome all who want to. We just don't like to be mocked just because you don't want to join us.

    Have a great day and better week.
    Some of us have a huge problem with Christians trying to push their religious weight around in the political arena. No John Hagee pun intended.

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    spiritual experiences being scientifically possible would be a good start, tbh.
    A peer-reviewed study by a neutral/unreligious observer that points to a spirituality as being the most logical explanation for a given event?
    these are both idiotic demands. do you two ask your girlfriends for scientific proof when they profess to love you?

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    I love my wife because Science tells me it's possible. Science told me that the births of my daughters were the most moving experiences of my life.
    Last edited by Oh, Gee!!; 08-12-2012 at 08:40 PM.

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    these are both idiotic demands. do you two ask your girlfriends for scientific proof when they profess to love you?
    I hope you at least got a blowjob out of it, tbh

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    I get where you are going, but this isn't really an argument for or against. I think the question out of all of the religions, and athiesm, choose one which does the best to advance society.

    Someone can believe in god and advance society, but is it the tenets of this religion (or athiesm) which led them to their advances, and how?
    immigrants have no soul in themselves, we know that. monetary profit is the only god that you shameless s want to worship tbh

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    these are both idiotic demands. do you two ask your girlfriends for scientific proof when they profess to love you?
    Idiotic analogy

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    What is best in life ? To crush enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their women.

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    immigrants have no soul in themselves, we know that. monetary profit is the only god that you shameless s want to worship tbh
    Crom laughs at your four winds!

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    I love my wife because Science tells me it's possible. Science told me that the births of my daughters were the most moving experiences of my life.
    Idiotic analogy
    Agreed

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    Please tell me what will happen if Christians are right and I am wrong.
    Depends on which christians your talking about. For the radical idiots you and me (I'm christian but not the right kind) will burn in . If you listen to the catholic church...

    The non-Christian may not be blamed for his ignorance of Christ and his Church; salvation is open to him also, if he seeks God sincerely and if he follows the commands of his conscience, for through this means the Holy Ghost acts upon all men; this divine action is not confined within the limited boundaries of the visible Church
    So as an atheist if you have sincerely looked for God's presence in your life and not found it yet you live your life following your conscience then you will recieve salvation. This of course is a very liberal interpretation, others would disagree. My personal view is that all men who feel regret for theirs sins shall recieve forgiveness.

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    these are both idiotic demands. do you two ask your girlfriends for scientific proof when they profess to love you?
    The allegation of the existence of an emotion (evidenced by measurement of hormones, brain activity, other corporeal reactions) is not equivalent to the allegation of the existence of a non-corporeal being which cannot be measured or otherwise proven to exist beyond conjecture and belief.

    I've heard some people claim that a god is measurable and can be proven — that the entire universe is the proof and measurement. But there has never been any causation established between the existence of the universe and its alleged divine creation. All we have observed is that it exists, not that it was thoughtfully or otherwise created. It seems supremely arrogant to assume that it was put together with intentionality. Why should anybody jump to that conclusion based on the evidence we have?

    There's literally nothing to connect that conjecture with reality besides belief. I could similarly believe that there are 40 million ice cream cones orbiting alpha centauri, or that Scientology is the one/true faith, but that doesn't make either conjecture any more likely to be true. It just makes me more likely to ignore the millions of alternative possibilities while I remain ensconced in the belief that only my belief system, ultimately, must be correct.
    Last edited by Juggity; 08-13-2012 at 01:46 AM.

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    I will and you may loosely refer to atheism as a religion, even though by hard definition, it's not.
    And your proof is?

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    You're a huge lying, hypocritical , but you are still welcome to stay in my thread and my America.


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    its not faith..........its indoctrination from other humans.
    So you only believe in the Dallas Mavericks because others do?

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    these are both idiotic demands. do you two ask your girlfriends for scientific proof when they profess to love you?
    There are analysis of brain and endorphin activity in both religious and emotional experiences.

    There have been studies that have used magnetic fields to induce brain activity that some people associate with a diety.

    The point is that scientists can 'see' both occurrences; however, there is absolutely no proof that something supernatural causes them and there are physical causes that have been noted.

    Does that exclude the possibility of supernatural cause? Of course not but there is absolutely no repeatable empirical basis for belief in a diety.

    Is there an empirical basis for physical cause? there is and as such there is reason to believe that physical activity causes emotional and religious experiences.

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    Depends on which christians your talking about. For the radical idiots you and me (I'm christian but not the right kind) will burn in . If you listen to the catholic church...

    So as an atheist if you have sincerely looked for God's presence in your life and not found it yet you live your life following your conscience then you will recieve salvation. This of course is a very liberal interpretation, others would disagree. My personal view is that all men who feel regret for theirs sins shall recieve forgiveness.
    the emboldened is untrue. The position of the catholic church is that they cannot judge gods will so while they can speculate, they cannot say any person will or has gone to . Also, from the church's POV, you are a catholic anyway. ITHO all protestants are protesting catholics. You may reject that, but like I said, even if what you said was true (about not being the right kind of christian), from the POV of catholics, you are the right kind of christian... with some questions.

    BTW, the italicized is also true for catholics.

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    And your proof is?
    The dictionary

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    Depends on which christians your talking about. For the radical idiots you and me (I'm christian but not the right kind) will burn in . If you listen to the catholic church...
    reason enough to dismiss christianity.

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    Then you are saying it wasn't a spiritual experience in hindsight. Right?
    spirituality does not equal religion

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