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    Since when was that the point?




    CoM struggling to begin the preseason . . .
    Parker has shown over the years that its a flaw he has as a player. Its not his fault because he was 20, its not his fault he isnt good enough to have lead the team to the Finals last year, etc is weak. It is his fault that he has a tendency to disappear in the most inopportune and biggest of moments, and the fact that Speedy was one of the few back-ups that was able to step up when that happened validates the legend of Speedy.

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    The irrationality is strong with this one.

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    TP was a beast for a whole lot of the 2003 Playoffs, too.
    That's why his play is so frustrating. How can you go from being a beast to non-factor that quickly. But he has done it enough times. If you get the accolades when you are beasting you also deserve the criticism when your play isn't up to par.

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    You can criticize all you want. I think most of the criticism is unwarranted, unless your standard for acceptability is somewhere near what's expected of superstars.

    I don't think anyone would argue that Tony Parker is a superstar; I think most who can set talk about him rationally would agree that Parker is a star-level player who occasionally exceeds that level. Ultimately, the difference between a superstar and a star is always consistency. If stars were always great, they'd be superstars.

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    thanks for posting that nono, brought back some good memories. damn D-Rob looks like a kid on Christmas on the bench

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    Nash must still have the smell of Spur semen in his skin. No way anyone has ever been on as much as that guy by one team.

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    You can criticize all you want. I think most of the criticism is unwarranted, unless your standard for acceptability is somewhere near what's expected of superstars.

    I don't think anyone would argue that Tony Parker is a superstar; I think most who can set talk about him rationally would agree that Parker is a star-level player who occasionally exceeds that level. Ultimately, the difference between a superstar and a star is always consistency. If stars were always great, they'd be superstars.
    Usually what separates the two is playing time and how their play effects the team. Carmelo is a great player, but his play does not elevate his team. Lebron James is a great player and his play elevates his team. A lot of that comes down to trying to hard to be a star instead of trying to be a basketball player.

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    funni how u parker homers only bring up the good series, but dont bring up the bad series where his been expose...exposed so much that teams keep on using it against him when they adjust

    lol celebrating 07 finals series playing against a scrub rookie who didnt even put up a fight just like that scrub lebron in that series...

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    Another interesting thing about that video is that's when the Spurs used to be able to come back from deficits by playing tougher. Nowadays Pop just gives up and he wonders why his team has no fight. How do you impress the importance of a loss if you don't really experience it? Maybe if Pop hadn't given up game 3 they split in OKC. The nasty has been missing for a while and it starts with Pop. He does too much babying.

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    You know, don't want to put salt on the wound, but that Game 6 comeback started with that rookie Manu steal and dunk on RJ... Gino obviously always comes up with game-changing plays, unlike other dudes from France who shall remain nameless, tbh...
    By far the best Jefferson moment in Spurs history.

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    Steve Kerr was the backup point guard most of that season as Speedy couldn't stay healthy. Speedy had the game of his life in the finals where he hit three or four 15 foot jumpers in a row for the first time in his entire career. He was left completely open because everyone knew he couldn't shoot and he came out with a Serge Ibaka like performance. Yes, he had a good game. No, he's not in the top five in Spurs' backup point guards since the '99 le.

    The best backup point guard the Spurs had was probably Anthony Carter if they'd held on to him.
    Gotta disagree; Carter's jumper made Vaughn's look like Larry Bird's.

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    To come back to the différence between a superstar and TP. another one would be the salary. TP cost the spurs basically 11 M$ per year in his entire carreer, roughly half of a superstar. He was and still is a bargain. I know it's not the point here but it's noteworthy. I don't see how people still manage to complain but haters gonna hate ;-)

    Not relevant with the topic but at least as relevant as the TP bashing in this thread.
    Last edited by Macca76; 10-11-2012 at 01:52 AM.

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    Parker homers/Manu homers. They play in the same house, they have different positions, they don't compete against each other for playing time. Good lord.

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    Parker homers/Manu homers. They play in the same house, they have different positions, they don't compete against each other for playing time. Good lord.
    Manu has always been and will always be the better player though. IMO.

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