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    Lee posts an article where the journalist specifically says he's not pushing conspiracy theories.

    2 posts later Darrin says people are pushing conspiracy theories.

    Don't ever change, Darrin.

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    Lee posts an article where the journalist specifically says he's not pushing conspiracy theories.

    2 posts later Darrin says people are pushing conspiracy theories.

    Don't ever change, Darrin.
    I made sure to put that second part in

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    pad300: I was talking to Darrin, not addressing red team generically.
    I'm not really red team per se; I'm a canadian. I just find US elections amusing - because of all the that goes on - and terrifying, because I (and the world) have to live with the results. I want Romney-Ryan win this time, because they are the ones promising an attempt at fiscal sanity. If your economy crashes, ALL of us have excedrin headache 357...

    and for more entertainment, Vote Fraud:

    http://twitchy.com/2012/11/06/voter-...ore-than-once/

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    God damn the double posts...
    Last edited by pad300; 11-06-2012 at 01:42 PM. Reason: Double post

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    I'm not really red team per se; I'm a canadian. I just find US elections amusing - because of all the that goes on - and terrifying, because I (and the world) have to live with the results. I want Romney-Ryan win this time, because they are the ones promising an attempt at fiscal sanity. If your economy crashes, ALL of us have excedrin headache 357...

    and for more entertainment, Vote Fraud:

    http://twitchy.com/2012/11/06/voter-...ore-than-once/
    Yeah a 20% across the board tax cut when you're $16T in debt. That's what I call fiscal sanity.

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    "because they are the ones promising an attempt at fiscal sanity"

    If they win and Ryan's budget ideas get implemented, $5T+ will be added to the national deficit, and there will be huge depression again from govt austerity, exactly like Europe and any other country that cuts govt spending in a depression.



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    I'm not going to get mad at the Canadian for not understanding that Romney/Ryan are FOS on that account but I will laugh at the thought.

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    I want Romney-Ryan win this time, because they are the ones promising an attempt at fiscal sanity.
    Does not compute. Please explain how they will slash the budget or reduce the national debt while cutting taxes and increasing military spending. Look at America's history and tell me which Republican president after Nixon balanced the budget.

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    Fiscal Sanity is spending less money than you bring in. Which does mean gutting a bunch of en lements, and doing what the Canadians did with the national pension (OAS for you folks) a while back: Going to investment funding vs ponzi scheme funding....

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    The republicans are the only party who might be willing to cut en lements. The democrats are bred in the bone opposed to cutting en lements.

    The dirty little secret of the Ryan plan is that they are going to be stuck with cutting en lements - they just don't want to campaign on it.... but if they try and implement, they will end up there.

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    I'm not really red team per se; I'm a canadian. I just find US elections amusing - because of all the that goes on - and terrifying, because I (and the world) have to live with the results. I want Romney-Ryan win this time, because they are the ones promising an attempt at fiscal sanity. If your economy crashes, ALL of us have excedrin headache 357...

    and for more entertainment, Vote Fraud:

    http://twitchy.com/2012/11/06/voter-...ore-than-once/
    Romney's "attempt" at fiscal sanity will be about as successful as an attempt to get to the moon by flapping your arms very fast.

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    The republicans are the only party who might be willing to cut en lements. The democrats are bred in the bone opposed to cutting en lements.

    The dirty little secret of the Ryan plan is that they are going to be stuck with cutting en lements - they just don't want to campaign on it.... but if they try and implement, they will end up there.
    Except that Democrats were willing to cut en lements if Republicans were willing to raise taxes... guess what happened there? Saying you're willing to cut en lements, but not able to list any that actually would make a dent in the budget, isn't really serious.

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    The republicans are the only party who might be willing to cut en lements. The democrats are bred in the bone opposed to cutting en lements.
    Both parties have supporters who expect and get their en lements. Minorities in Cleveland getting food stamps and Obamaphones are one of the many kinds of en lements bankrupting this country.

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    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_perce...n_en lements

    56% of the total budget. If you want it to balance, you are going to have to hit en lements. The democrats won't do it. The republicans might do it. The choice is pretty easy. If the Tea party had their own candidate slate, I'd be hoping for them...

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    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_perce...n_en lements

    56% of the total budget. If you want it to balance, you are going to have to hit en lements. The democrats won't do it. The republicans might do it. The choice is pretty easy. If the Tea party had their own candidate slate, I'd be hoping for them...

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    Surely no member of the GOP has ever claimed to be a fiscal conservative before only to turn out to be FOS.

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    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_perce...n_en lements

    56% of the total budget. If you want it to balance, you are going to have to hit en lements.
    True.

    The democrats won't do it. The republicans will pretend they want to do it. The choice is pretty easy. If the Tea party had their own candidate slate, I'd be hoping for them...
    FIFY true.

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    Fiscal Sanity is spending less money than you bring in. Which does mean gutting a bunch of en lements, and doing what the Canadians did with the national pension (OAS for you folks) a while back: Going to investment funding vs ponzi scheme funding....
    Listen bud, I'm not saying fiscal sanity cannot be done. It will take en lement reform and tax increases to get it done. My question is what makes you think a Republican administration will do it? You say they will "try and implement it" - what's the basis for that? The Red Team won't even let Medicare negotiate lower prices with providers. They are not interested in making government programs more efficient, they just want their donor corporations to feed at the trough uninterrupted!

    The only thing Romney's definitely going to do is to cut taxes and then hope that everything else works out (higher growth, more jobs, therefore more tax revenue and less social spending). But the problem with that hypothesis is that it hasn't ever worked out. A recent Tax Policy Center study showed that tax cuts had no result on growth, and the red team basically wanted to put a lid on the report. They don't have anything new; they have exactly one medicine in their arsenal and they don't care about the patient's actual disease.

    Romney would win this election running away if he had said he would do both en lement reform and increase taxes to bridge the deficit. He won't do it, because his donors don't want that.

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    Surely no member of the GOP has ever claimed to be a fiscal conservative before only to turn out to be FOS.
    The word I used was "might" .... You don't get what on the label. But some hope is better than none.

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    Surely no member of the GOP has ever claimed to be a fiscal conservative before only to turn out to be FOS.
    The word I used was "might" .... You don't get what on the label. But some hope is better than none.

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    The word I used was "might" .... You don't get what on the label. But some hope is better than none.
    Let me save you the trouble ... they "might" but they "won't"

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    How fiscally responsible were the Republicans from 2001-2008 tbh

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    This guy is the first person (and will probably always be the only person) to praise Canada's government then advocate the Republican. What a total contradiction

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    Maybe. The democrats won't. Without scare quotes...

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    Maybe. The democrats won't. Without scare quotes...
    Negotiations this year broke down due to proposed tax increases, not en lement reform.

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