Spurs: Is Ginobili white?

[spursfaninla]

I can confirm Manu's parents were both born in Argentina... However, either his grandfather or great grandfather was Italian. The reason being that Italy grants citizenship up until the great grandfather ancestry and it's fairly well known Manu has dual citizenship (Argentina & Italian).

This discussion highlights the confusion our society has over whether "Latino", "hispanic," or even terms like "Mexican-American" really refer to a cultural iden y, a racial iden y, or both. I vote cultural iden y.

I think using "latino" as a racial iden y idea makes no sense, largely because racial iden y only makes sense as a social idea, not as a genetic one.

Even setting aside that race makes no sense from a scientific standpoint (although regional characteristics do make sense, but that is a different discussion) most latinos, even europeans, are of mixed descent, and the rules for what is defined as "white" keeps changing historically. In the late 1800's and early 1900s, being Irish was not included as "white," and Italians too. Mixed people typically can appear white, but many people consider them not to be white regardless. So, in a sense, almost all latinos are of a mixed race, as are almost all people anyway.

to the point: Manu identifies as Latino, he was born in south america, he speaks spanish, and his parents were born in latin america. Clearly he is culturally a "latino," for all that this means given the cultural diversity of different spanish speakers.

[Man In Black]

Manu is white and took from other players when they didn't know who he was early on. Players used to disrespect him by saying he was a Whitey Euro who couldn't play Basketball. And then he dunked on their heads or broke their ankles on the way to a twisting layup.

http://m24digital.com/en/2011/11/18/...south-america/

I've always said that part of the reason the Spurs aren't as popular is because AMERICAN TV doesn't know to promote International Stars. They failed miserably with Tony and Manu but are trying to pump up the US on new International players like Ricky Rubio and Serge Ibaka.

If we're talking American Demographic Definitions, on the US Census, there is no Race for Mexican. There is a listing for Hispanic as an ethnic classification followed by Race. So, for the US Census, Manu could simply say that Him and his family are Hispanic>White
Where as a a guy like say Leandrinho Barbosa could say that him and his family are Hispanic>Black

http://www.census.gov/population/hispanic/

[russellgoat]

Manu look jewish tbh...

[Proxy]

If it speaks spanish, it's mexican

[Spur_Fanatic]

if you define white people as those who're as white as sheamus then white people would be the minority in all european countries as well as the US except for a few north european countries like iceland and norway imho

Pretty much this.