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    Yet if you're Michael Fins, Soft or Matty Bonner you're embraced by that tough Pop and *big three**.
    Spare us.

    Not aiming this at you benstanfield just pointing out what bull it is some fabricated notion that non Medium 3 players have to **play your role or you're out** given those three soft s (Finley Bonner) complete blessing by their boifriend Pop the last 5 years. And condoning by the Medium 3.
    Bull . Look at Fin/ /Blair's body language on the bench. You can tell they aren't part of "the team," part of the players that set the tone in the locker room. Bonner is well liked because he puts in work and plays his role, even if the outcome isn't always great. I'm not talking about playing time, I'm talking about guys who embrace the franchise and become active parts of it versus guys that just play basketball when Pop puts them in.

    You sound like you've never played on an organized basketball team, with the social dynamics and in-group behavior that result from good leadership.

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    Don't forget that De Colo was drafted 53rd and Patty was drafted 55th. If we do trade Blair for a top 50+ protected pick, who says that a player outside of the top 50 is completely worthless? The player that we draft might be a diamond in the rough and end up having more potential than Blair.
    Manu was drafted 57th in 1999, too!

    Granted, those kinds of steals are rare (though the Spurs are good at them), but it's better than the nothing that Blair has become now.

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    One tends to get worse when you're already bad to begin with.

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    Instead of focusing on whether his problem is physical or mental, may I ask which one is the more difficult: rebuilding his ACLs or his confidence/motivation?

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    Instead of focusing on whether his problem is physical or mental, may I ask which one is the more difficult: rebuilding his ACLs or his confidence/motivation?
    He could have all the confidence in the world, but if his knees have indeed given up on him then he's done, no matter what.

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    He could have all the confidence in the world, but if his knees have indeed given up on him then he's done, no matter what.
    why can't people accept that he is physically unable to compete? Why must there always be some "other " factor.

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    He's trying to make Pop regret not playing him in the playoffs last year. So far, he's making Pop look better with every game he plays

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    why can't people accept that he is physically unable to compete? Why must there always be some "other " factor.
    ST Posters career in the NBA with no ACLs was so much better.

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    Bull . Look at Fin/ /Blair's body language on the bench. You can tell they aren't part of "the team," part of the players that set the tone in the locker room. Bonner is well liked because he puts in work and plays his role, even if the outcome isn't always great. I'm not talking about playing time, I'm talking about guys who embrace the franchise and become active parts of it versus guys that just play basketball when Pop puts them in.
    After the 2007 le, Frenchy Frog gushed about how "they wanted to win the le so badly for Michael Finley.
    Can't make this stuff up.

    Also, since as you claim MrsPopFinly/Soft were not "part of the team" and "just play basketball when Pop puts them in", please do tell why the Medium 3
    1. Tolerated the amount of playingtime AND the contract EXTENSIONS given to both.
    1b. Frenchys comments after the 2007 le?

    Bonner is well liked because he puts in work and plays his role, even if the outcome isn't always great.
    So Bonners well do ented playoff utter fail is "well liked even if the outcome isn't great." Thanks for validating my point. CIP Poops moron strategy and the Medium 3s tolerance of such proves it obviously was NOT about winning Championships in 2008 09 10 11. So much for their tight clique which makes one *tow the line or else*.

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    Wasnt Blair dunking regularly in the preseason and really early on in the season? People were even mentioning how he had dunked way more frequently than he had last season. Kind of hard to believe that it went from that to him knees giving up on him in a matter of a few months.

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    Blair's physical limitations always limited his ceiling, but the struggles that have made him utterly ineffective this season are mental. He's not competing with the same energy consistently that made him a good "garbage man" earlier in his career and I'm not sure he's made a good decision on the basketball court all season.

    I don't think there's any value in trading him, so the most likely course of action is for him to ride outthe contract the way Anderson did.

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    Yet if you're Michael Fins, Soft or Matty Bonner you're embraced by that tough Pop and *big three**.
    Spare us.

    Not aiming this at you benstanfield just pointing out what bull it is some fabricated notion that non Medium 3 players have to **play your role or you're out** given those three soft s (Finley Bonner) complete blessing by their boifriend Pop the last 5 years. And condoning by the Medium 3.
    Speaking of "sparing us". Shouldn't you be bumping your next Spur's head coach thread?

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    Speaking of "sparing us". Shouldn't you be bumping your next Spur's head coach thread?
    In light of your request and Pops neck n neck equal counterpart coaching today, for you Schtikk:
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...highlight=2008

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    Instead of focusing on whether his problem is physical or mental, may I ask which one is the more difficult: rebuilding his ACLs or his confidence/motivation?
    Actually my question is two-fold. The first part I wonder if any surgeries can/could have been done. Why did he enter the NBA without reconstructing his ACLs beforehand. When people tear their ACLs, they will consider reconstruction, say with hamstring tendon graft, if they want to participate in vigorous sports again. But in the Blair's case, it's probably to late to say so. Even then, why can't he consider other procedure? Even a diagnostic arthroscopy will reveal how damaged his knees or ankles are, and attempts can be made regarding repairing, e.g. "shaving" of arthritic components.

    The second part of the question can be even more challenging. Under miraculous cir stances his conditions will improve. But it's more likely to be static or even get worse. Then it's up to Dejuan to accept and adapt to his limitations, but it's much easily said than done.

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    A few weeks ago, Blair was in the starting lineup; fast forward to now and he's not even in the rotation and is the last player to leave the bench even in garbage time! What has changed in Blair and his game between his time as a starter and now? Has his game gotten any worse? What caused him to fall out of favor with Pop?
    Reminds me of how they used to do James Anderson a while back.

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    Laziness, Big Macs, low BBIQ, Big Macs, shortness for his position, Big Macs, no ACLs, Big Macs, poor hustle, Big Macs, poor effort on D, Big Macs, and emo tweets.

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    Cheer up. If Blair got worse, now we can call him Matt Bonner Jr!
    Yeah that would make us cheer up since we have both on our damn team at the same time for years now

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    Reminds me of how they used to do James Anderson a while back.

    Tragedy..... let's all cry together for poor James. Poor fella, never given a chance to prove himself...

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    Speaking of "sparing us". Shouldn't you be bumping your next Spur's head coach thread?
    Speaking of popsucking, shouldn't you be analyzing your exalted idol who can never do wrong?

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    Tragedy..... let's all cry together for poor James. Poor fella, never given a chance to prove himself...
    I know man...he'll get his time to shine eventually.

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    Seriously guys, if Brandon Roy who is all heart and one of the most driven compe ors in the league can't compete because of his knees, and he had 1000x the talent Blair ever had, then Blair is done. People need to accept that this dudes knees are not suited for playing against the top 400 professionals in his sport. He had a good run but it's obvious that since his rookie year his physical ability has deteriorated. He's not being lazy, dude is trying to play for a contract, I don't think he would just stink it up out there for no reason. He's physically done.

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    Reminds me of how they used to do James Anderson a while back.
    Dude broke his foot like 6 games into his rookie season and has never regained the his speed/agility. He's like molasses out there. You can blame Pop for not giving these guys chances or whatever but do you really expect the coach to play players just because they're on the team and he feels bad for them? Isn't this what everyone complains about Bonner for?

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    Matt has physical limitations, and some mental ones (choking under any form of pressure) but he does not just mail it in.

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    Dude broke his foot like 6 games into his rookie season and has never regained the his speed/agility. He's like molasses out there. You can blame Pop for not giving these guys chances or whatever but do you really expect the coach to play players just because they're on the team and he feels bad for them? Isn't this what everyone complains about Bonner for?
    Spurs fans are, almost by default, underdog fans. We like to see the unheard of guy get his shot and succeed. James isn't that guy. He gets the ball taken from him, at the rim, on dunk attempts. He doesn't even belong in the NBA.

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    Speaking of popsucking, shouldn't you be analyzing your exalted idol who can never do wrong?
    No, waitng for some more of your knowledgable posts about basketball. Its been too long, tbh.

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