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Well we ARE le contender... but I would trade bonner blair and either neal or mills for a big who can play D and has post moves. Thats been our problem the past few years.. I thought that was obvious...
Well we ARE le contender... but I would trade bonner blair and either neal or mills for a big who can play D and has post moves. Thats been our problem the past few years.. I thought that was obvious...
It's asking "How would YOU" do this...it doesn't say something has to have good reasoning behind it. LOL but it is assumed that you would, I suppose.
I think we can get Pau Gasol for our bench (Bonner, Neal, Mills) + Jackson for salary. Gives the Lakers the players they need for D'Antonis system, we get the most dominant front line in basketball. If we could get past OKC, we'd destroy the Heat in the Finals
The only way the Spurs could really change their situation is in the off season. Let Neal, Jack, Blair walk, try to trade Bonner for a backup PF or SF. Resign Manu only if he wants to come back cheap, try to re-sign Splitter this season for cheap because I think this guy just may get 10 mill+. Go after and try to get two of any of these free agents:
Larry Sanders, Andre Iguodala, Tony Allen, David West, Landry, Hickson, Speights, etc.
Wouldn't Mills have to consent to a trade?
Let fewer teams in the playoffs. Space the games further apart so Manu and Duncan have time to recover.
After watching the clips last night, and the Thunder get pummeled, we are still a strong contender in the West.
Love these post loss posts so I will contribute with other teams.
Hi, I'm new here.I've been tinkering with the trade machine for a while and I came up with a three-way trade among SA, UTA, and CLE.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aa2cqk3
For those too lazy to click:
SA gets:
Varejao
Bell
Casspi
Pargo
Leuer
SA gets a scrappy center to play alongside Duncan and fellow countryman Splitter. They also get Casspi, who they pined for in the draft way back. Pargo is an insurance to replace Mills; I remember them expressing interest in him a year ago. Jon Leuer will be the new Bonner. As for Bell, I think the Spurs have been interested in his defense and shooting from way back (please correct me if I'm wrong). This will be more favorable to the Spurs' cap situation since all other deals save for Varejao's will be expiring.
UTA gets:
S Jax (they don't have a character guy/shooter)
Gibson (to address back-up PG problem)
Bonner (to address their constant need for white guys)
Zeller (see Bonner)
Mills (to address back-up PG problem)
Nothing more than a salary dump for them, to enable them to play Kanter/Favors, and to give them two possible back-up
point guards, since Mo Williams has an injury, and because they don't have any decent back-up PGs. Zeller will be the new bench center to replace the spot left by Kanter/Favors, and Bonner will be the token white guy.
CLE gets:
Al Jefferson
Burks
Blair
Carroll
Murphy
+ picks
CLE gets a solid offensive option in the post who can resign with the team after the season ends. As it stands, Varejao is their only post presence, and his post game isn't fundamentally sound. Tristan Thompson is only 6'8", so the 6'11" Jefferson can offset the height deficit, to go along with some sound scoring. Burks will provide them fresher legs in the wing, and Blair is insurance for Thompson, in case the latter fails to put up good offensive numbers. TBH Blair can contribute in a fresh environment; he's driven because of a contract year. Carroll and Murphy are just fillers.
Do you guys think this is possible? I'm also banking on the growth of Tiago and Kawhi. Hopefully they get around just in time to provide us a viable fourth option; someone who can create shots on his own and take the pressure off Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili.
Last edited by FireMicoHalili; 01-05-2013 at 10:26 PM.
No way the Lakers trade Pau for the Spurs trash.
Bonner is back to his usual ways -- the Spurs score more with him on the court than with any other player, and his defensive numbers are team-average. That's why his minutes have increased lately, imo --- the Spurs were looking for a different combination that might bring more success in the playoffs, and they haven't found one. I think they've realized their best chance, even in the playoffs, is with a floor spacing big who leads the NBA in 3pt %. Even if it's not ideal, it's their best option.
In other words, it's highly unlikely they'll trade Bonner. No team will value him the same way the Spurs do.
I think the best way to "turn" this team in a championship contender is to stand absolutely pat, unless you can rob another team (as the Spurs have so often done). Don't mess with the chemistry of a highly successful team.
Another trade I put up; I know most of us here in SpursTalk are skeptical especially with regards to shaking up the whole team chemistry thing, but hopefully this'll work in 2k13 at least. It's a three-way trade among SA, PHI, and SAC that will net us Cousins.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bd6w957
For those too lazy to click,
SA gets:
Salmons
Thompson
Cousins
Fredette
SA finally gets another talented big man in the disgruntled Cousins, who can make a turn-around (with regards to character; he's been solid this season with regards to stats) under the tutelage of the disciplinarian Gregg Popovich and the quiet Tim Duncan. Sacramento, chock full of bad contracts, will be shipping out Salmons ($8.1M, 3 years) and Thompson ($5.3M, 5 yrs), who will both be valuable to SA. Salmons can hit the three, and can maybe adjust to provide the Spurs with corner three shooting, while Thompson is a mobile big man who can thrive in Popovich's small ball sets. Fredette is sort of a salary dump, and his shooting will be valuable to the Spurs.
PHI gets:
SJax
Splitter
Brooks
Outlaw
Mills
PHI finally gets value in return for the Bynum trade. Sure, they're loaded at the wing spot, but they don't have a veteran presence that can surface once the playoffs start (although it's arguable they'd need that anyway; it's been fun seeing them grow). Splitter will be the big man Andrew Bynum was supposed to give the Sixers (or at least he can try...); it's better than having someone play for them than none at all. As is stands, LaVoy Allen currently starts for the Sixers, and Splitter will give them a taller, more solid option at center over the mercurial Spencer Hawes. Brooks and Mills are throw-ins who can give them better options at back-up PG; Outlaw will be there as insurance in the SF/PF slot.
SAC gets:
Bynum
Wright
Blair
Moultrie
Neal
The season hasn't been that bad for the young Kings, but it seems like the team is headed for the lottery again. They don't get much in value for Bynum, except for the salary dump and the possibility that he takes up the cudgels for the franchise and resigns with them to become their centerpiece. Wright is a better replacement for Outlaw; he is also an expiring deal, which can give them some cap relief coming into 2013's free agency. Blair and Moultrie will provide warm bodies in the paint while Bynum sits out the whole season. And Neal...will be the back-up point guard following the exodus of Brooks and Fredette. Also hoping Blair will finally put out his 20-20 games on a nightly basis (okay, a far reach, much like this post).
As it stands, the bars for the trade will be (1.) that Bynum won't be sure to resign with the Kings, as his deal is expiring, and Sacramento isn't exactly the place you want to play in; (2.) that the deal seriously affects the Spurs' cap flexibility in the long run, especially with the 'window closing' or the 'old age' schtick; and (3.) that there are better deals than this one, considering the Mavs and the Celts need a center more badly. What do you guys think?
Last edited by FireMicoHalili; 01-05-2013 at 10:30 PM.
No doubt it's unlikely, but with Paus big contract, the way he has played this year and his injuries (tendinitis in both knees and plantar fasciitis in one foot) I'm not sure what his value is. The reality is that he's the only player they can trade to improve their team, and they don't need any more stars. They need a bench.
The way I see it, we have been running D'Antonis offence for 2 years, and Bonner et al are players that thrive in that scenario (in the regular season at least). I think that trade improves the Lakers drastically.
Again, doesn't Mills have to consent to the trade first. I doubt he'd do it because he likes playing under Pop and Brett Brown, the former Australian National coach.
He does, but that isn't a huge issue. There's little financial incentive for him to negate the trade, which is why the rule exists in the first place. If he wants to stay for basketball reasons, I think that would backfire, because Pop would be less inclined to play him if he was trying the trade him in the first place.
Okay, if that's the case, maybe we can swap Mills with Neal, and CoJo takes up Neal's slot instead
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