Ruth's Chris

[leemajors]

every costco I have been to has a part of their cooler dedicated to prime beef.

Yeah Franklin BBQ in Austin used to get their prime brisket from Costco

[gameFACE]

It's been a while but the last time I went to RC it wasn't bad at all. We also had a gift certificate. A few years later I had a steak at Silo and I thought it was even better. But you'll enjoy RC. The sides were really good, too.

[TeyshaBlue]

Ruth's Chris, Mortons....steak = roast.

Pass. Bleh.

[The Reckoning]

over july 4th my friend was firing up the propane grill and forgot to lift the top up. i watched this huge fireball come out from under the grill and give my friend 2nd to 3rd degree burns all over his legs.

[I. Hustle]

over july 4th my friend was firing up the propane grill and forgot to lift the top up. i watched this huge fireball come out from under the grill and give my friend 2nd to 3rd degree burns all over his legs.

[cantthinkofanything]

over july 4th my friend was firing up the propane grill and forgot to lift the top up. i watched this huge fireball come out from under the grill and give my friend 2nd to 3rd degree burns all over his legs.

did he go dieded?

[lebomb]

True, Costco typically has choice, but not prime. Bolner's has great choice cut steaks including prime, kobe, and akaushi but they damn sure aren't cheap.

Bolners is awesome!!!

[BRHornet45]

another one of NOLA's finest, national chains

[Sisk]

over july 4th my friend was firing up the propane grill and forgot to lift the top up. i watched this huge fireball come out from under the grill and give my friend 2nd to 3rd degree burns all over his legs.

Happened to Hannah Storm recently.

[DMC]

True, Costco typically has choice, but not prime. Bolner's has great choice cut steaks including prime, kobe, and akaushi but they damn sure aren't cheap.

Just not the real akausi, isn't that correct?

[CosmicCowboy]

Just not the real akausi, isn't that correct?

If it comes from akausi steers it's pretty much real IMHO.

[CuckingFunt]

If it comes from akausi steers it's pretty much real IMHO.

As discussed in the other steak thread, all of the Japanese cows in the US have been crossbred with Angus. I don't think there are any exceptions there. It results in meat that has a number of the same properties that make wagyu and kobe and all the rest so popular, and it allows the sellers to call it by the Japanese name and sell it for more, but what we're eating in the states isn't the same stuff they're eating in Japan.

[Trill Clinton]

As discussed in the other steak thread, all of the Japanese cows in the US have been crossbred with Angus. I don't think there are any exceptions there. It results in meat that has a number of the same properties that make wagyu and kobe and all the rest so popular, and it allows the sellers to call it by the Japanese name and sell it for more, but what we're eating in the states isn't the same stuff they're eating in Japan.

you know the meat can be imported from Japan, right?

[CuckingFunt]

you know the meat can be imported from Japan, right?

Per Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_beef

Mislabeling

The proliferation of beef outside of Japan marketed as the Kobe beef is a troubling issue for Kobe beef farmers. Much like how sparkling wine may not be labeled "Champagne" unless it is produced in the Champagne region of France, the same is true in regard to "genuine" Kobe beef. Kobe beef comes from a specific breed and genetic lineage of cattle raised in the Hyogo prefecture according to the standards set by Kobe Beef Distribution and Promotion Council. This council also sets the rules regarding foreign exportation of Kobe beef and has tightly restricted trade with the exception of export to Macau and Hong Kong.

The import of Japanese beef into other countries is also tightly restricted, the US in particular, where from 2010 to 2012 the sale of it was illegal due to restrictions put in place by the USDA regarding concerns about foot-and-mouth disease found in some Japanese cattle in 2010. Limited imports to the US have since been approved. True Japanese Kobe beef is currently exported from Japan to the United States.

However, due to a lack of regulation which would enforce protection and recognition of the Kobe beef trademark, there are many opportunities to purchase beef that is labeled or passed off as Kobe beef, taking advantage of the public's ignorance of what it takes to make beef that is legitimately Kobe beef, in effect defrauding unwary consumers and the true Japanese Kobe beef industry.

As stated above, genuine Japanese beef has never been easy to import and was for a time completely illegal to import or sell in the US. It no longer is flat out illegal (as of just a few months ago, I believe), but it still is difficult and costly. Considering that restaurants can already legally label the beef they're selling as Kobe or Wagyu and sell it for a ton of money WITHOUT having to go to the additional effort and expense of a tricky import process, how likely do you think it is that the Kobe beef you've eaten in restaurants actually came from Japan?

[Trill Clinton]

Per Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_beef

Mislabeling

The proliferation of beef outside of Japan marketed as the Kobe beef is a troubling issue for Kobe beef farmers. Much like how sparkling wine may not be labeled "Champagne" unless it is produced in the Champagne region of France, the same is true in regard to "genuine" Kobe beef. Kobe beef comes from a specific breed and genetic lineage of cattle raised in the Hyogo prefecture according to the standards set by Kobe Beef Distribution and Promotion Council. This council also sets the rules regarding foreign exportation of Kobe beef and has tightly restricted trade with the exception of export to Macau and Hong Kong.

The import of Japanese beef into other countries is also tightly restricted, the US in particular, where from 2010 to 2012 the sale of it was illegal due to restrictions put in place by the USDA regarding concerns about foot-and-mouth disease found in some Japanese cattle in 2010. Limited imports to the US have since been approved. True Japanese Kobe beef is currently exported from Japan to the United States.

However, due to a lack of regulation which would enforce protection and recognition of the Kobe beef trademark, there are many opportunities to purchase beef that is labeled or passed off as Kobe beef, taking advantage of the public's ignorance of what it takes to make beef that is legitimately Kobe beef, in effect defrauding unwary consumers and the true Japanese Kobe beef industry.

As stated above, genuine Japanese beef has never been easy to import and was for a time completely illegal to import or sell in the US. It no longer is flat out illegal (as of just a few months ago, I believe), but it still is difficult and costly. Considering that restaurants can already legally label the beef they're selling as Kobe or Wagyu and sell it for a ton of money WITHOUT having to go to the additional effort and expense of a tricky import process, how likely do you think it is that the Kobe beef you've eaten in restaurants actually came from Japan?

yup its no longer illegal to ship as of September 2012; so there is a possibility that some people are getting the actual rare quality beef imported.

i've only eaten it in one restaurant and i think i had the real deal.

[bus driver]

update?

what did you get? did you like it?

do i have to read the whole thread to get the answers?

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

yup its no longer illegal to ship as of September 2012; so there is a possibility that some people are getting the actual rare quality beef imported.

i've only eaten it in one restaurant and i think i had the real deal.

how much did you pay for it?

[CosmicCowboy]

Per Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_beef

Mislabeling

The proliferation of beef outside of Japan marketed as the Kobe beef is a troubling issue for Kobe beef farmers. Much like how sparkling wine may not be labeled "Champagne" unless it is produced in the Champagne region of France, the same is true in regard to "genuine" Kobe beef. Kobe beef comes from a specific breed and genetic lineage of cattle raised in the Hyogo prefecture according to the standards set by Kobe Beef Distribution and Promotion Council. This council also sets the rules regarding foreign exportation of Kobe beef and has tightly restricted trade with the exception of export to Macau and Hong Kong.

The import of Japanese beef into other countries is also tightly restricted, the US in particular, where from 2010 to 2012 the sale of it was illegal due to restrictions put in place by the USDA regarding concerns about foot-and-mouth disease found in some Japanese cattle in 2010. Limited imports to the US have since been approved. True Japanese Kobe beef is currently exported from Japan to the United States.

However, due to a lack of regulation which would enforce protection and recognition of the Kobe beef trademark, there are many opportunities to purchase beef that is labeled or passed off as Kobe beef, taking advantage of the public's ignorance of what it takes to make beef that is legitimately Kobe beef, in effect defrauding unwary consumers and the true Japanese Kobe beef industry.

As stated above, genuine Japanese beef has never been easy to import and was for a time completely illegal to import or sell in the US. It no longer is flat out illegal (as of just a few months ago, I believe), but it still is difficult and costly. Considering that restaurants can already legally label the beef they're selling as Kobe or Wagyu and sell it for a ton of money WITHOUT having to go to the additional effort and expense of a tricky import process, how likely do you think it is that the Kobe beef you've eaten in restaurants actually came from Japan?

Wiki isn't always right

http://www.heartbrandbeef.com/?page=shop/history

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Wiki isn't always right

http://www.heartbrandbeef.com/?page=shop/history

And that still isn't Kobe beef

[CosmicCowboy]

And that still isn't Kobe beef

No Sherlock. By definition Kobe beef has to come from Japan, like champagne has to come from France. That doesn't mean that pure strain wagyu cattle grown in the US can't be just as good as wagyu grown in Japan.

[Fat boy]

No Sherlock. By definition Kobe beef has to come from Japan, like champagne has to come from France. That doesn't mean that pure strain wagyu cattle grown in the US can't be just as good as wagyu grown in Japan.

A1 sauce can make it happen.

[Trill Clinton]

how much did you pay for it?

zero dollars

[monosylab1k]

zero dollars

Ran out on the bill, eh? I knew you wouldn't tip but that's low.

[JudynTX]

update?

what did you get? did you like it?

do i have to read the whole thread to get the answers?

We still haven't gone yet.

[gameFACE]

Man, hurry up. We have inquiring minds.

Anyone ever been to Myron's steakhouse? Any good? A friend asked me but I had never even heard about it.