Give me reasons why you think Parker will join Ginobili and Duncan....

[IceColdBrewski]

IceColdBrewski hating Parker. That's something even a tousand of rings aren't going to change.

I'm arguing that Parker isn't good enough to be an All-Star next year. If that makes me a "hater", so be it.

[IceColdBrewski]

Questions to you, ducks:

1) Is this what you really think, or do you wish he peaked, 'cause if he gets any better you run out of reasons to bash him?

2) How important do you think Manu was for the Spurs to win it all this year?

3) Was he (i) less important, (ii) as important, or (iii) more important than you boy in helping the Spurs win the championship

4) If Manu has peaked, would you trade him and for whom?

5) If he has peaked, isn't 21/6/5 good enough for our starting SG?

6) What's up with you Manu hating?

I can't wait to hear this.

[ducks]

Questions to you, ducks:

1) Is this what you really think, or do you wish he peaked, 'cause if he gets any better you run out of reasons to bash him?





I think he has peaked he is the same age or close to duncan. do you honestly think he can improve? if so he can not by alot.



2) How important do you think Manu was for the Spurs to win it all this year?
I think he was a big reason for why the spurs won it all. but if duncan was hurt they would not have won anything.

3) Was he (i) less important, (ii) as important, or (iii) more important than you boy in helping the Spurs win the championship

I do not think he was more important then tp I think he was = as important as tp
again duncan is the reason spurs won it all

4) If Manu has peaked, would you trade him and for whom?
I would not trade him for james

5) If he has peaked, isn't 21/6/5 good enough for our starting SG?
very much so. this is not a thread to bash manu. I was just pointing out tp would not have to worry about an improving manu to catch. this the playoff manu we saw.manu is now a marked man in the nba. I hope he can still put those same stats up

6) What's up with you Manu hating?

stating you think he has peaked is not hatting
you want me to worship him like they do where he is born you can forget it
he is good but he is not god

[IceColdBrewski]

stating you think he has peaked is not hatting
you want me to worship him like they do where he is born you can forget it
he is good but he is not god

You're dodging the questions.

"Answer the questions Claire"

[ducks]

I answered it
I am still waiting to your responce on has manu peaked

[Frenchise player]

I'm arguing that Parker isn't good enough to be an All-Star next year. If that makes me a "hater", so be it.

Men why do you try argue with that. I positively hates Steve Francis and Vince Carter, you do hate Tony Parker, it isn't that bad.

This thread is not what makes you a hater, it is the hundreds of threads and posts where you always try to denigrate Tony, it is the fact that you disapear when he has a good game and suddenly comes back when he has a bad one.
When it comes to Tony's futur you will always be on the pessimistic end.

I give you credit because you are the original Parker basher and it will always be like that and also because you hated him before he dated Eva unlike 90% of the other haters. But as a hater you have no objectivity.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

stating you think he has peaked is not hatting

I get what you're saying Ducks, but if that is true, then why is it that when someone says TP isn't going to improve much, everyone jumps up and says "stop hating on TP"? Personally I think TP is going to get better and better each year, and I also think Manu is going to improve in the little things. Now I know you don't like Manu ducks, you make it clear every time you jump with a negative comment every time Manu does something right, so that you can downplay whatever he did. Personally, I think you bash on Manu because there are some that bash on TP, whom you like, and you feel you need to get back at them. I also know that there are a lot of haters out there (yes, Brewski), but theres no need to take it out on Manu just because some bashes your boy. Be the better man.

[IceColdBrewski]

I answered it
I am still waiting to your responce on has manu peaked

No. He hasn't peaked yet. Now then, are you man enough to answer ALL of his questions or not?

Guess we'll have to start calling you "Chicken" instead of ducks.

[ducks]

stating tp can not improve is silly
because most point guards peak at the age of 28-29
aj even started hitting jumpshots late in his career

I try to bring a balance to the forum. if everyone only talked good about a certain player then this place would suck. (even tp) I will let some others say negative things about manu.

[ducks]

what question did I not answer IceColdBrewski

ps I may not get to post tell tomorrow morning so do not think I am a chicken

[Frenchise player]

I also thinks that Manu can't improve as much as Tony can, but that's simply because he plays already near perfection considering what his body is.
Like any other player Manu's first limit is his body, that's why he will never be as good as Lebron or Kobe (at least individually not for the Spurs).
But I don't care if Manu doesn't improve, if he plays like he has played in the last playoffs, he is going to the ASG every year and the Spurs are going to win five more championships.

[ducks]

manu is suppose to put on weight right this summer?

that will help him from getting hurt

[IceColdBrewski]

stating tp can not improve is silly
because most point guards peak at the age of 28-29
aj even started hitting jumpshots late in his career

I try to bring a balance to the forum. if everyone only talked good about a certain player then this place would suck. (even tp) I will let some others say negative things about manu.

Who said Tony Parker couldn't improve?

[IceColdBrewski]

manu is suppose to put on weight right this summer?

that will help him from getting hurt

Because heavier people never get hurt?

[ducks]

Who said Tony Parker couldn't improve?

I never said you did
I asked YOU what question I missed

[ducks]

Because heavier people never get hurt?

shaq is one of the heaviest people in the nba and he gets hurt

the spurs think he should get heavier I think they know more then you

[ducks]

I am out of here I have to do some thinks ......

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Those are some mighty fine stats. But it still doesn't take away from the fact that Parker did nothing to break out of his image of being someone who can be stopped when a defense concentrates on him. When Ginobili and Duncan get in a zone, there's nothing a defense can do to stop them. That's what a true "All-Star" can do. Tim and Manu are known as players who can carry the team regardless of the cir stances. Parker is known as a player who can carry a team as long as defenses aren't concentrating on him. Like it or not, that's how he's perceived by everyone but Spurs fans.

I guarantee this is the only image the NBA has of Parker today (and tomorrow, too).

[IceColdBrewski]

I never said you did
I asked YOU what question I missed

Ah. I see where you answered the questions. My bad.

But when did I say that Parker couldn't improve? He has all the potential in the world to improve. Question is, will he.

[exstatic]

The only reason: the blush of new love doesn't last long.

[1Parker1]

Brewski, let me ask you this, why the do you even bother starting threads like this: "Give me reasons why you think Parker will join Gino and Duncan..." when

a) You really don't care what we think
b) You're just going to end up writing us all off as Parker homers anyway
c) You're not going to change your mind about Parker, just like we're never going to change ours?


Also, this thread wasn't supposed to be another Manu vs Parker thing, I am so tired of that crap. My point in bringing up Manu in this thread was simply to state a point which is that while many people around here think that Manu>>>>>>>>>Parker--meaning Manu is infinitely greater than Parker, I simply think that the margin of Manu's greatness is not that much greater than Parker. Clearly Manu took his game to a new level this past season, all I and many others are saying is that Parker can and will also.

[GerM]

who thinks manu has peaked?
I know other posters here think he has to

Not Tim Duncan, thats for sure.

[1Parker1]

Now let me ask you a few questions Brewski:

1) What makes you think Parker won't improve his game next season or seasons beyond? Why don't you try backing that up with some stats. Because the way I am looking at it is this: in 03 he averaged 14.5 ppg and 5 assists, in 2004, 15 and 5.5, in 2005, 16 and 6. Every year for the past 3 years his numbers and playmaking skills have vastly improved. Sure it's easy to point out the bad games he's had, but overall, he's getting better. While he may still be inconsistent---I'll say this. No one outside of Tim Duncan is consistent on this team--and even Duncan was somewhat inconsistent this season.

2) You think he's a wimp and folds under pressure? Well how do you explain the B2B OT wins against Clips and Warriors-which by the way he won himself against a Top 5 PG in the league--without Manu and Duncan to back him up. How do you explain his clutch shooting in the Denver OT game? How do you explain the fact that although his offense was ty in Game 7--his defense was consistent throughout 4 quarters on the Pistons 2 hottest offensive players?

3) Tell me, who is a realistic PG you would trade Parker for--someone who you think the Spurs can seriously aquire and who you think will fit into Pop's system, be ok with being a 3rd option, complement Manu's fast break game in the backcourt. Go ahead and tell me.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Now let me ask you a few questions Brewski:

1) What makes you think Parker won't improve his game next season or seasons beyond? Why don't you try backing that up with some stats. Because the way I am looking at it is this: in 03 he averaged 14.5 ppg and 5 assists, in 2004, 15 and 5.5, in 2005, 16 and 6. Every year for the past 3 years his numbers and playmaking skills have vastly improved. Sure it's easy to point out the bad games he's had, but overall, he's getting better. While he may still be inconsistent---I'll say this. No one outside of Tim Duncan is consistent on this team--and even Duncan was somewhat inconsistent this season.

2) You think he's a wimp and folds under pressure? Well how do you explain the B2B OT wins against Clips and Warriors-which by the way he won himself against a Top 5 PG in the league--without Manu and Duncan to back him up. How do you explain his clutch shooting in the Denver OT game? How do you explain the fact that although his offense was ty in Game 7--his defense was consistent throughout 4 quarters on the Pistons 2 hottest offensive players?

3) Tell me, who is a realistic PG you would trade Parker for--someone who you think the Spurs can seriously aquire and who you think will fit into Pop's system, be ok with being a 3rd option, complement Manu's fast break game in the backcourt. Go ahead and tell me.

You tell him 1Parker1! LOL Although Parker only won one of those B2B without Manu, the other one Manu had 40 points. Other than that, right on the nail sister!

[boutons]

How long til October?

Anybody got the Spurs pre-season schedule?