No way I do this trade since it would make us worse defensively. However, I would be interested in Paul Milsap since he he can play the 3 or 4 and brings added rebounding and toughness. I wouldn't give up Splitter for him but SJax, Green, Neal and/or any of our backup PGs. I would also really like Alec Burks to come our way and feel he could become a solid player. If we give up green, we can try to bring a veteran 2 guard that can shoot the 3 and play solid D.
IMO, from what I've seen, not reliable at all. UTA plays things extraordinarily close to the vest, so that part passes the smell test, but the Spurs being clearly the frontrunner reeks of just putting two and two together (i.e. the front office connections/relationships).
Then we'd wind up with three good big men--Splitter, Jefferson and Tim. I don't know how Pop would split the minutes and talents, but I suppose he could since he's the best active coach in the league
Y'all are cray if you think this wouldn't be a goof pickup. He's one of the most underrated Centers in the league. Sure he's not great at defense but he's not nearly as bad on D as some of you make him sound. Offensively, he'd be a huge pickup and a great compliment to Timmy. It would suck to lose Splitter though.. If there was any way to get him without losing Tiago that'd be a Godsend. Either way, I hope this somehow happens. We need it.
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Millsap + Burks for Green + Bonner + Neal + Mills + 2013 First Rounder
What I'm disagreeing with you on is the assertion that Garnett's the only big man worth giving up serious assets for.
Besides, Garnett's not tradable either so we're basically talking pipe dreams.
My issue with Garnett is how he's slowed down. I'm not convinced that he'd be able to chase perimeter players and he clearly wouldn't be a decent long-term option. Plus Tim hates him. Spurs could fix this by slowing down the pace but I just don't believe KG has enough in the tank to make it worth trading someone like Kawhi for him.
The other 2 are guys who are faster and younger. Chandler in particular would transition the most seamlessly because he's very pick and roll oriented while also being better on the glass and on D.
Trading for a 4 doesn't get them past OKC or Miami. Both teams will ultimately go small ball with KD and LeBron.
If the Spurs are looking for a trade to bolster this year's championship chances, then you target a 2 or 3 that can create their own shots or is a proven playoff performer (eg: Paul Pierce). Otherwise, this current squad has as good a chance to ring as any trade that brings in Jefferson, Garnett, etc. tbh.
I don't want Al. He's not a warrior at all and is weak on defense. He's the same guy that said "we can't beat them" about the spurs after game THREE of our series last year. That's weak sauce. Even if you thin it's true, as the leader of a team you can't come out and say that in public whole the series is going on. As tdmvpdpoy would say he's a fkn wanker
He admitted that he didn't get anything from the Spurs. The Jazz are just as good, if not better, at keeping things in house. So that leaves agents, specifically Jefferson's agent. He wants to help create a market for Jefferson (so that a team other than Utah holds his Bird Rights this summer) and there's no better way to generate interest than to plant a story that the Spurs are ready to make a move.
IMO, there is no reliable basis for this story.
Enes Kanter is not a former overall No. 1 pick
AI is not an upgrade over Splitter on D
And the spurs don't have that much assets to trade.
- SJax expirer is a nice asset but not has no value for another expirer like AI
- Leonard or one of the Big 3 will not be traded for AI
- Bonner / De Colo / Neal / Blair / Mills / Baynes are not really interresting for the Jazz
It leaves Splitter or/and picks
KG is different because he's more agile and his pick and roll defense is elite
Don't get wrong I love (no ) Tiago but if he is the price to pay to get Jefferson I'll do it.
They are both 28 y/o, Al is a 20 10 1 player, I'm convinced that he could improve a ton defensively with the Spurs.
It's not like we are giving up a young productive big in Tiago, he is already 28. Al is much more proven at this stage even if health is always a concern with him. What he could bring offensively and rebounding wise is significant imho vs. Tiago.
Plus, I'd rather pay 8-9 million to Tiago over 4 years than 12-14 million for Big Al.
You'd rather pay Jefferson? Let's see how each of them does going forward.
Nobody's going to be stupid enough to pay him that kind of money AGAIN.
Are they?
Yes, he is. But he can't guard KD nor LeBron. If/when the Spurs play those teams in the playoffs, Spurs will have to match up with those small ball lineups. In theory you could hide a KG/Jefferson on guys like Battier/Thabo but the gains are not worth giving up Tiago or Jack IMO.
I think he'll easily get 12 million per year.
I guess, Pop would cut a lot Tim's regular season minutes. This interest for Al Jeff could even be motivated by all the issue Tim has had lately with his knee(s).
No to Jefferson. Especially if Splitter is involved. The defense will go back to middle of the pack with Al at the 4.
No way would I trade Splitter.
Here is a trade that'd work though:
Blair, Bonner, Neal, Jackson, Lorbek for AJ and Carroll or Evans (SF's).
Neal has some good value IMO, especially because he's a hybrid PG/SG, and very cheap. we swap SF's with Jack and Carroll.
oh andat everybody assuming we will get Tiago for a nice reasonable price... the Tiago progress are not being un noted by the rest of the league. Nobody knows what kind of money he is going to be offered.
Once again ST fans should stop thinking you can attract teams by trading them all our garbage in once tbh
I guess it wouldn't shock me if that were the case, but that's another reason not to even bother trying to get him. If the Spurs are going to give up assets to rent someone for this year, I'd rather have Pierce, and he probably wouldn't cost Splitter or Leonard to get.
Considering the thread was started by Bottomtooth and the rumor was Jackson, Splitter, and Mills I was worried. Thankfully it's just a stupid trade machine transaction and not the rumored deal. Hopefully it's just smokescreen for a better fit coming in.
Pierce is the only realistic trade target that I wouldnt have any hesitation on pulling the trigger for unless they asked for Kawhi/Tiago, which they probably would.
It would definitely cost the Spurs at least one of those guys to get him. Everybody in BOS already hates Ainge, they'd outright lynch him if he traded away one of the franchise greats for nothing but expirings. But then again, it is Ainge.
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