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    Lockout '99 spurs were one of the most dominant defensive teams in finals history with slightly past prime D-Rob and second-year TD. I think they were one of the better spurs teams to win it all, tbh.
    Maybe they weren't the worst, but in the context of the lockout season, that le is not that impressive. Most players league-wide were out of shape and didn't train or practice during the lockout. The Jazz and the Spurs were like the only two teams that trained and prepared for the season. I don't think they really beat a juggernaut team in the playoffs either.

    Somebody had to win that le that season, so it's not a knock against the Spurs, but there's a reason why lockout les don't garner as much respect as full-season les. Reggie Evans was talking the other day about the Heat le last year. That doesn't mean Reggie Evans is an authority on anything, but that kind of at ude is common for lockout les.

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    Maybe they weren't the worst, but in the context of the lockout season, that le is not that impressive. Most players league-wide were out of shape and didn't train or practice during the lockout. The Jazz and the Spurs were like the only two teams that trained and prepared for the season. I don't think they really beat a juggernaut team in the playoffs either.

    Somebody had to win that le that season, so it's not a knock against the Spurs, but there's a reason why lockout les don't garner as much respect as full-season les. Reggie Evans was talking the other day about the Heat le last year. That doesn't mean Reggie Evans is an authority on anything, but that kind of at ude is common for lockout les.
    Well the Spurs beat the Lakers and then the Blazers, who destroyed the only other "in shape" team in the previous round.

    The 2006 Heat stick out to me. They got bailed out by the refs in 2006, but then blew their wads against the BULLS and got swept in the first round the very next season.

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    Going off of pure talent...maybe the 2003 Spurs? That team minus Duncan was pretty subpar.

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    Going off of pure talent...maybe the 2003 Spurs? That team minus Duncan was pretty subpar.
    ...but they did have Duncan. Therefore they were a great team.

    They were also dominant in the regular season. I remember everyone was picking the Spurs to knock off the Lakers, despite them defending a 3-peat.

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    Give me a ing break. They won 57 games and had a guy who was arguably the best player in the league that year. They took out the two-time defending champs and two other elite teams. The 78 Bullets are by far the worst le team - they went 44-38 and only got it because the best team in the league's best player broke his foot. The Blazers were 50-10 when Bill Walton broke his foot and finished 58-24.
    The way I asked myself who the worst team was on there was by asking if I put all those teams in a series who would I be least confident in winning. I'm not trying to knock on their championship run that year, what I'm saying is the team that was probably the least intimidating in a 7 game series out of the solid championship caliber teams is that 2011 Mavs.

    I would go with the 2006 Heat but because Shaq is a nightmare matchup and D-Whistle plays unfair I cant.

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    sup Toht, where's belloq?

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    sup Toht, where's belloq?
    Bruder Belloq doin' well but can't get that chick off his mind

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    The way I asked myself who the worst team was on there was by asking if I put all those teams in a series who would I be least confident in winning. I'm not trying to knock on their championship run that year, what I'm saying is the team that was probably the least intimidating in a 7 game series out of the solid championship caliber teams is that 2011 Mavs.

    I would go with the 2006 Heat but because Shaq is a nightmare matchup and D-Whistle plays unfair I cant.
    Are you going post-Magic and Bird or are you including the 70's teams? The 78 Bullets and the 75 Warriors would be no match for the '11 Mavs.

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    at the mavs 'having one of the most impressive playoff runs ever'
    mav krew riders

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    It's comical how much worse those Cavs became after the Spurs swept them. Going into the series, the hype was OMG DID YOU SEE WHAT LEBRON DID TO THE PISTONS HE SCORED 234234 STRAIGHT POINTS HE'S THE BEST IN THE GAME! Bowen turns LeBron into Nick Young and suddenly those Cavs sucked and get worse year after year.

    Yeah, the Cavs were pretty bad relatively speaking but LeBron will go down as a top five player ever and that playoff run was his coming out party. They beat a legit team in the Pistons before getting to the Finals. The 2002 Nets on the other hand got to face Antoine Walker and the Celtics in the ECF ... and Antoine Walker took them to six games
    I agree LEbron is a potential GOAT but people over exaggerate how bad the Cavs were to prop Lebron ...and he doesnt need it James is clearly an all-time great.

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    Are you going post-Magic and Bird or are you including the 70's teams? The 78 Bullets and the 75 Warriors would be no match for the '11 Mavs.
    I'm going by the teams I actually watched myself in my life time which is pretty much starting from the Magic era during the 80's. Also look at that list again, though the story has yet to be told there hasn't been 1 team since the early 90's that was 1 and done. Someway, somehow it has been either back to back, or 1 every other year or something of that nature. I am confident that the 2011 Mavs will not be back to the NBA finals anytime soon at least (next 2-3 seasons).

    Also I would want to pick that Detroit 2004 team but everyone in sports knows they were considered the greatest defensive team in SPORTS history. I was actually listening to the radio the other day and most people voted that 2004 team being the greatest defensive team in sports history, including the NFL, NHL, etc.

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    I'm going by the teams I actually watched myself in my life time which is pretty much starting from the Magic era during the 80's. Also look at that list again, though the story has yet to be told there hasn't been 1 team since the early 90's that was 1 and done. Someway, somehow it has been either back to back, or 1 every other year or something of that nature. I am confident that the 2011 Mavs will not be back to the NBA finals anytime soon at least (next 2-3 seasons).

    Also I would want to pick that Detroit 2004 team but everyone in sports knows they were considered the greatest defensive team in SPORTS history. I was actually listening to the radio the other day and most people voted that 2004 team being the greatest defensive team in sports history, including the NFL, NHL, etc.
    Cuban intentionally dismantled his le team because of the new CBA. They didn't even try to make a proper le defense. The '12 Mavs don't have any relevance to their championship predecessor. Also I think the 11 Mavs would have a much easier time with the 06 Heat than the 06 Mavs. The 06 Mavs almost and should have won that series. The 11 Mavs had a lot more poise and better coaching than the 06 team.

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    Cuban intentionally dismantled his le team because of the new CBA. They didn't even try to make a proper le defense. The '12 Mavs don't have any relevance to their championship predecessor. Also I think the 11 Mavs would have a much easier time with the 06 Heat than the 06 Mavs. The 06 Mavs almost and should have won that series. The 11 Mavs had a lot more poise and better coaching than the 06 team.
    11' Heat were clearly better, just like the 06' Mavs were better. Took huge chokejobs for both those teams to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory tbh.

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    11' Heat were clearly better, just like the 06' Mavs were better. Took huge chokejobs for both those teams to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory tbh.
    How do you figure that? You can make a better case for the 06 Mavs choking than the 11 Heat. The Dream Team Heat had a 2-1 lead in their series, but they never had the Mavs down on the mat the way the Avery Johnson Mavs did the Shaq/Wade Heat.

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    How do you figure that? You can make a better case for the 06 Mavs choking than the 11 Heat. The Dream Team Heat had a 2-1 lead in their series, but they never had the Mavs down on the mat the way the Avery Johnson Mavs did the Shaq/Wade Heat.
    Werent the Heat on the verge of going up either 2-0 or 3-1 before the Mavs made a huge 4th quarter comeback in one of the games? LeBron choked in 11', Dirk choked in 06'. Dirk and co. made plays in 11' but so did Wade and co. in 06'. To me it was crazy just how similarly the better teams ended up losing both those Finals. Pretty sure they were the underdogs too just like the Heat were in 2006 (rightfully so in both cases).

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    Werent the Heat on the verge of going up either 2-0 or 3-1 before the Mavs made a huge 4th quarter comeback in one of the games? LeBron choked in 11', Dirk choked in 06'. Dirk and co. made plays in 11' but so did Wade and co. in 06'. To me it was crazy just how similarly the better teams ended up losing both those Finals. Pretty sure they were the underdogs too just like the Heat were in 2006 (rightfully so in both cases).
    Dallas made the comeback in Game 2 in Miami.

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    2011 Mavs are one of the best NBA championship teams in NBA history. Yep, I said it. No one thought they could do it. No one gave them a chance. Everyone thought that JET and Dirk would never win a championship after 2006.

    The worst NBA championship team has to be the 2006 Heat. Take away half of Wade's free throw attempts, and the team would have wound up like the 2002 Nets. Thank you. Stern was trying to make Wade the next Jordan and we all know how that worked out. Wade is now Robin and Lebron is Batman on the Heat. Sooner or later his herpes infested ego will get the better of him and he will leave the Heat and his BFF.

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    2011 Mavs are one of the best NBA championship teams in NBA history. Yep, I said it. No one thought they could do it. No one gave them a chance. Everyone thought that JET and Dirk would never win a championship after 2006.

    The worst NBA championship team has to be the 2006 Heat. Take away half of Wade's free throw attempts, and the team would have wound up like the 2002 Nets. Thank you. Stern was trying to make Wade the next Jordan and we all know how that worked out. Wade is now Robin and Lebron is Batman on the Heat. Sooner or later his herpes infested ego will get the better of him and he will leave the Heat and his BFF.
    Youre a homer, thats why. There are a bunch of similarities between the 11' Mavs and 06' Heat including noone expecting either to win in the Finals. But of course the Mavs overcoming the odds makes them one of the best while the Heat overcoming the odds makes them one of the worst...makes perfect sense.

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    The Mavs 2011 championship is the best because it was sweet revenge. Yes, I'm a homer and proud of it. It was awesome to see the Mavs get their first championship by beating them that stole their championship in 2006. It was great to see Wade lose and not get love at the FT line. I loved seeing that piece of lose and finally being humbled by the Mavs and Dirk.

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    Thats perfectly understandable but that makes the 2011 Mavs your favorite champions not the best champions. That team like almost anything mavs related is overrated as on this site, mainly cause of all the mavfans+mk suck ups tbh.

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    Overrated? You in' serious? The 2011 Mavs championship team is one of the best championship teams in the last 10 years. They beat a Portland team that no one thought they could beat. They swept the Lakers. The Lakers were the two time defending NBA champs and the three time defending Western Conference champs. The Mavs beat a Thunder team that had Durant, Westbrook, and Harden. And finally, the Mavs beat a Heat that had Wade, Lebron, and Bosh. Weren't the Mavs the first team to win the NBA Finals after losing game 3 when the series was tied 1-1? The Mavs also won their championship without HCA in the Finals. Can the Spurs claim that? Thank you. And the Mavs were down twice in the Finals against the Heat but still won.

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    Who didnt think they could beat Portland?

    The Lakers were running on fumes. Since even the '10 run they had shown that there were chips in their armor, they were a terribly inconsistent team on the road and Kome was chucking at lower percentages than he is now...they were alot closer to the level of the '12 Lakers than the '10 Lakers. If you believe the hype that they were just laying low waiting to turn the playoff switch on (like is always the case with the Lakers according to the media) then I guess that was an impressive series win. I wasnt so much surprised that the Mavs won as much as I was that they swept them, but if you think about it Kobe-led teams usually fold when faced when adversity so it shouldnt have been that surprising tbh.The Thunder were a 4th seed that year. They were considered the future of the Western Conference but werent the power they are today.The Heat were the better team. The Mavs winning was strongly aided by LeBron choking, if he plays even close to his potential instead of scared Heat win.

    The 2011 Mavs arent the worst but theyre not anywhere near one of the best of all-time either. Noone outside of ST (full of mavfans and mk suck ups) gives them that distinction.

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    06' champs might probably be the weakest of all since the turn of the century. we got through the east and didn't face much challenge, in the finals we beat them mavs who were highly flawed. take the 06' heat to today's league i'd be happy with the team making the 2nd round tbh

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    None, they were all pretty damn strong

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    None, they were all pretty damn strong

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