Pop needs to be called out....again

**Bill_Brasky** · 02-28-2013

Ball movement stopped in OT plain and simple. Did anyone besides the big 3 touch the ball in OT?

**benstanfield** · 02-28-2013

Originally Posted by trypldubl

It's called adjustments.

"Adjustments" being your stand-in word for actual ideas?

**elbamba** · 02-28-2013

Originally Posted by UZER

Parker doesn't get tire from running around all game. He has excellent stamina. He wears down when bigger physical player starts pushing riding his hip and picking him up right across half court.

I say from the moment pop recognizes this switch with the bigger defender on him, start Parker off the ball and run him off of numerous picks to have the defender chasing and chasing and fighting through picks to wear HIM down like they used to do with Reggie Miller. Granted, Parker is not the shooter Miller was, but his mid range has improved dramatically, plus coming off of tight curls has the defense scrambling. Parker faster and has more stamina than most players in the NBA.

Don't just leave him out there to dry and try to run pick and roll over and over. Pop knows that doesn't translate in the playoffs. Ask Phoenix.

The problem with someone else bringing up the ball is, and again this goes back to being on Pop, he has spent all year shuffle the back up pg duties that no one is comfortable with the job at this point. In the playoffs, he will more than likely go back to Neal who is a turnover waiting to happen because he's not a true pg. This is where Pops constant tinkering with the lineup hurts the team come playoff time. So what happens? We have no one else to bring the up the in the playoffs which bring back to the first problem.

Its on Pop.

I think that it is a mistake to run away from pick and rolls with Splitter late in games. Tim was missing a step last night. He scored but he missed what seemed to be a bunch of easy shots. I think Splitter is a little better at getting to the rim on the pick and rolls, usually becasue he has a worse defensive player on him.

At the beginning of the year, Splitter was putting games away by scoring in bunches in the second half of games just by running the pick and rolls. I see the Spurs go to him less and less now.

**elbamba** · 02-28-2013

Originally Posted by Bill_Brasky

Ball movement stopped in OT plain and simple. Did anyone besides the big 3 touch the ball in OT?

Not only were the big three the only ones to touch the ball, but it was always over dribbling by one or two of them and then shooting a bad shot. There is no excuse for scoring one point through 4 minutes of overtime.

silverblk mystix · 02-28-2013

Originally Posted by trypldubl

Dude the backup pg situation is a joke. Right now Pop's flavor of the moment is having manu running backup pg with mills at the two spot. If Pop would have just rode out the ups and downs with Nando since the beginning of the season then maybe by now he would be rounding into form. Pop did same thing with Splitter the past few seasons. If Splitter had been given the confidence early on then maybe he would not have wet the bed against Fisher in the playoffs last year.

I think Pop is a great coach and no one wants him fired or anything dumb like that. Its just that this team is playing better defense and has a shot at winning getting to the Finals. I think this loss was a good loss because it seems like more and more teams might start to use the same scheme to defend Parker. Now Pop might have no choice but to figure something out to counter this issue.

BINGO!

(DeColo and/or Mills - same difference - Just pick one.)

**will_spurs** · 02-28-2013

Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Some of it might.
If they don't know it's a possibility by now, they shouldn't be coaching.
Yes.

So you mean there's a problem, but mentioning it is ing... I wonder what this board is for.

**ChumpDumper** · 02-28-2013

Originally Posted by will_spurs

So you mean there's a problem, but mentioning it is ing... I wonder what this board is for.

Oh, it's definitely in no small part for ing.

**trypldubl** · 02-28-2013

Originally Posted by benstanfield

"Adjustments" being your stand-in word for actual ideas?

Dude there is a mismatch somewhere. You could run Manu off multiple screens to get a decent shot on the perimeter. Post Tim up high and depending on the mismatch post up Kawhi or run staggered screens along the baseline to get splitter a quick open look. The op even made some suggestions about playing parker off the ball. Have his defender chasing him around multiple screens and catch the ball curling toward the lane. Sort of like the way Rip did with the pistons. Parker's mid range jumper has improved enough that he can actually do this.

You don't have to change the whole offense but your adjustment to this should not be just running the pick and roll over and over unitl something happens. Pop also makes Manu run the same pick and roll instead of Parker but Manu is not quick enough at this point to get by his defender on a consistent basis. His ball handling trying to split the screen sometimes is iffy too.

**letmk** · 02-28-2013

Originally Posted by trypldubl

Dude there is a mismatch somewhere. You could run Manu off multiple screens to get a decent shot on the perimeter. Post Tim up high and depending on the mismatch post up Kawhi or run staggered screens down low to get splitter an open look. The op even made some suggestions about playing parker off the ball. Have his defender chasing him around multiple screens and catch the ball curling toward the lane. Sort of like the way Rip did with the pistons. Parker's mid range jumper has improved enough that he can actually do this.

You don't have to change the whole offense but your adjustment to this should not be just running the pick and roll over and over unitl something happens. Pop also makes Manu run the same pick and roll instead of Parker but Manu is not quick enough at this point to get by his defender on a consistent basis. His ball handling trying to split the screen sometimes is iffy too.

This. When a longer and stronger can fight through the screen and chase Tony all over the court, it's at least not efficient to let Tony continuously dribble left-and-right, back-and-forth for the penetration.

And the assessment about Manu is also right on the point. Manu can still be very effective when he plays a supplemental role in offense. That way, he is just another player to opponents and their defense is not focusing on him.

**Blake** · 02-28-2013

Originally Posted by Bill_Brasky

Ball movement stopped in OT plain and simple. Did anyone besides the big 3 touch the ball in OT?

My favorite game of the season so far was the Bulls game where the Royal 3 sat.

The ball movement was immaculate. A thing of beauty.

**UZER** · 02-28-2013

Originally Posted by letmk

This. When a longer and stronger can fight through the screen and chase Tony all over the court, it's at least not efficient to let Tony continuously dribble left-and-right, back-and-forth for the penetration.

And the assessment about Manu is also right on the point. Manu can still be very effective when he plays a supplemental role in offense. That way, he is just another player to opponents and their defense is not focusing on him.

Yet this has been the go-to offense in the playoffs during fourth quarters of games for the past 3 years or more years.... Tony dribble left - pick - cutoff, Tony dribble right - pick - cutoff, left - pick - cutoff, right - pick - cutoff, clock wings down, bad shot, rinse - repeat. Spurs eliminated.

Pop - "they just made shots"

Like I've said, I know we can't win every year, but losing the same way every year without making adjustments is the definition of insanity, and its on the head coach.

**Pop** · 02-28-2013

Originally Posted by UZER

Yet this has been the go-to offense in the playoffs during fourth quarters of games for the past 3 years or more years.... Tony dribble left - pick - cutoff, Tony dribble right - pick - cutoff, left - pick - cutoff, right - pick - cutoff, clock wings down, bad shot, rinse - repeat. Spurs eliminated.

Pop - "they just made shots"

Like I've said, I know we can't win every year, but losing the same way every year without making adjustments is the definition of insanity, and its on the head coach.

We lost because their role players outplayed the mighty Spurs bench last year but Spurstalk is still in love with the mighty bench and think something is wrong with TP for some reason...

**EricB** · 02-28-2013

Can't wait till the day pop quits.

**Obstructed_View** · 02-28-2013

Not sure how this is news to some of you guys. Stopping Parker has been the way teams have beaten the Spurs in the playoffs since Kobe and Shaq were still together.