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    Atlanta would have to give the Spurs something more than Diaw back for Rasho.
    One would think -- if Billy doesn't lock up a center by training camp the throw-ins likely increase.

    If he still has a job by then.

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    There are plenty of teams desperate for a center in the NBA. Diaw is chump change compared to what the Spurs could land if they were willing to take back a contract. Golden State seems like a natural target.

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    Dunleavy Jr. would be a great fit at the 3 in SA long term. Great handles, stroke from outside, length, court vision, rebounding, etc...If the Spurs could somehow weasel him away for Rasho and change or whatever....hmmm...

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    Diaw is chump change compared to what the Spurs could land if they were willing to take back a contract.
    Well the only reason I floated this idea is if the Spurs were looking mainly for a salary dump. Memphis would be a candidate for contract-for-contract deals. GS might want to roll with what they have in Foyle, Taft, Murphy, Biedrins and Zarko.

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    Yeah, Battier for Rasho makes a lot of sense for both sides.

    Battier has pretty much hit a plateau as a player. Memphis has excess 3s and their lone bigman of note has one year left on his deal and wants to GTFO.

    From the Spurs' perspective, the last position to be locked up for the next 3 to 5 years would be taken care of. Battier's contract is quite attractive, all things considered in today's NBA: 5 years and about $30 mil or so left on it.

    Battier is the consumate team player, has good size for the 3, good shot, will defend, wants to win, cerebral, relatively young (turns 27 this September), etc.
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    I would think Buford would want more than Boris Diaw for Rasho.

    Rasho for Josh Smith or Josh Childres...

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    Yeah, Battier for Rasho makes a lot of sense for both sides.
    I don't know if West would be more willing to let Posey go, or if we'd bite.

    Rasho does seem to be a "missing piece" type for them, though they're probably looking for someone at the point as well.
    I would think Buford would want more than Boris Diaw for Rasho.
    I doubt Knight would go for that -- that's all he has to show for the last two seasons, and those guys really came on at the end of the year. The saved salary might be enough -- or a third team could get involved and offer its player to the Spurs for the Hawks' cap space. Then it gets complicated....

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    James Posey doesnt fit the bill for a Spur SF. Battier does but that only works if Bowen is the starter for just the upcoming season.

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    reading a Chumpdumper vs spvrs arguement reminds me a lot of Chumpdumper vs. whottt. It just takes less time to get through the thread.

    ps... Anybody who argues that Atlanta wouldn't take Rasho for Diaw needs to have their head examined. Rash's contract is very attractive for a starting center of his skill. If ATL could lock down the center position for the next four years and still have 18 million to spend this season, they would do it in a heartbeat. What good is capspace if nobody will sign with you? (Like what happened last summer to ... ATLANTA. d'oh!)

    It's the Spurs who are more likely to not do this deal.

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    Redd, Jasikevicius, Ilkausgas joining LeBron?
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    Jasikevicius is next on the to-do list for the Cavs. He's also being wooed strongly by the Pacers and Celtics and wants to make a decision soon. The Cavs appeal to him because they're one of the few teams in the league that have starting jobs available. The asking price is high (he'd like the full $5 million mid-level exception), but he might be worth it. If the Cavs want championship experience in their point guard, Jasikevicius has it. He's won three straight Euroleague les, leading two different squads. However, if the Cavs want a point guard who plays defense, they'd better start looking elsewhere. If Ferry can't sign Jasikevicius, look for the Cavs to switch gears and make a strong push for Antonio Daniels and Marko Jaric.
    If Chad Ford, europlayer pimp extrodinare says Jasikevicius might be worth the MLE, I wouldn't offer more than the LLE.

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    Dude, seriously, what's with the ing locks??????

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    "Horry to Miami"

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    Battier for Nesterovic doesn't work under the CBA.

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    Battier for Nesterovic doesn't work under the CBA.
    They could just throw in Big Jake.

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    They could just throw in Big Jake.
    Doesn't work, either.

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    Doesn't work, either.
    Is Battier a base year player? That's the only way that doesn't work.

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    Check out realgm.com. It may be wrong but it's not letting me trade these players, not the way they match up.

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    realgm doesn't even have this year's salaries in it yet.

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    Unless there's some major provisions amending the CBA, I don't see how their salaries or how they work will change much over this summer. It looks like some other team must get involved to get this trade to work.

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    Unless there's some major provisions amending the CBA
    There are.

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    We could get a whole lot more for Rasho then Diaw and some cap space. I agree with Marcus and think the Spurs should make a hard run at Battier.

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    There are.
    Do tell.

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    We could get a whole lot more for Rasho then Diaw and some cap space. I agree with Marcus and think the Spurs should make a hard run at Battier.
    man that would be SO sweet.

    nazr/duncan/large man who looks like he can rebound
    duncan/horry/scola
    bowen/battier
    manu/barry
    parker/beno/vet point

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    The requirement of salaries having to be within 15% + $100,000 has been eased to 25% + $100k. If the salaries in hoopshype are correct, Shane + Jake should work. Even if he's a base year player, the numbers might work with Jake in there.

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