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    Just another example of Uncle Sam taking a on the U.S. military. What a disgrace and shame.

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    Increase taxes on the rich. Who have sent manufacturing jobs overseas. The middle class is shrinking. The tax base is shrinking and the only ones that can pay for are the rich. Tax the out of them.

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    One thing I have noticed about the military. They don't work anymore. They contract everything out. When I was in the army in the early 90's. we did everything. And my peers did everything. I work at bamc and now all I see is civilians and contractors doing everything. The soldiers are always shaming, getting out of work for this or that. Never doing the job they came in for. There will an assistant to the assistant oic and ncoic. It's a shame I think the overspending is on the military side. Not the civil service side.

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    That's a surprise to me. Maybe I'm wrong. What is it over tasked for now that we have pulled out of active engagement? I'm out of the loop now. What's going on?
    We'll be in "active engagement" with several thousand troops in Afghanistan through 2014.

    And even without "active engagement" there are several thousand forward-deployes positions to the region across the services.

    I think that's what LnGrrr was referring to further up-thread.

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    DoD will on the grunts first and hardest, it's the military's lower class, but find ways to "break the sequester" law so the $Bs keep flowing to the corrupt MIC, the DoD's wealthy class.

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    Gotta stay ahead of the Chinese technologically and plan for the next, next conflict tbh. Unfortunately, that's the pace of development for a major weapons program.

    The sad part is that there are no reprecussions for how poorly a program is executed...case-in-point the F-35 fiasco, which won't skip a beat funding-wise even though it breached Nunn-McCurdy by more than 50% in 2010.

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    ty. I look for medical benefits to begin drying up in the not too distant future. Lngrr oughta be as pleased as pie about that.

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    One thing I have noticed about the military. They don't work anymore. They contract everything out. When I was in the army in the early 90's. we did everything. And my peers did everything. I work at bamc and now all I see is civilians and contractors doing everything. The soldiers are always shaming, getting out of work for this or that. Never doing the job they came in for. There will an assistant to the assistant oic and ncoic. It's a shame I think the overspending is on the military side. Not the civil service side.
    You're seeing a bad side of it then. I always loved my combat medics but the ones at HQ or at the hospital have no military bearing. But that isn't normal IMO.

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    We'll be in "active engagement" with several thousand troops in Afghanistan through 2014.

    And even without "active engagement" there are several thousand forward-deployes positions to the region across the services.

    I think that's what LnGrrr was referring to further up-thread.
    Open the Army Times and see units deployed all over world. The new thing right now is having Quick Response Forces in Africa.

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    ty. I look for medical benefits to begin drying up in the not too distant future. Lngrr oughta be as pleased as pie about that.
    LOL...

    If the military eliminates their medical system, and turns it all over to Obamacare, it's no longer part of their budget, right?

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    ty. I look for medical benefits to begin drying up in the not too distant future. Lngrr oughta be as pleased as pie about that.
    Which is why I'm working to get my kids surgery ASAP before it costs me a few thousand...

    Oh and AF did suspend tuition assistance. Damn it.
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    One thing I have noticed about the military. They don't work anymore . They contract everything out. When I was in the army in the early 90's. we did everything. And my peers did everything. I work at bamc and now all I see is civilians and contractors doing everything. The soldiers are always shaming, getting out of work for this or that. Never doing the job they came in for. There will an assistant to the assistant oic and ncoic. It's a shame I think the overspending is on the military side. Not the civil service side.


    Except doing any real fighting (outside of a day in Iraq and a few weeks in Somalia) like the Army has been doing almost non-stop for 10+ years

    Your fondly remembered USA days were the last gasp of the Cold War Era, when a red swarm through the Fulda gap was the only thing that made any of the Brass nervous and there were 250K+ more Army troops... Things are different now (downsizing esp), weapons systems are far more advanced, and with the smaller size there are naturally more things to do for the civilians. I'm sure there is a load of waste on both sides, but blaming this on 'shamming' soldiers is easily the dumbest thing i've yet to read in this thread (and darrenS has made an appearance)

    And holy , if your acronym up there stands for Brooke Army Medical Center, then no there are a lot of civilians you . It's a goddamn rear-echelon base filled with fat-assed, rear echelon types. Try going to a base that's home to a combat unit... smfh...

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