That's because the Spur were already in the penalty with like 9 mins remaining in the 4th.
In all honesty, as a basketball fan it kills me that OKC, an absolutely talented team, gets these calls. It does a lot more harm than good in the long run because EVERYONE on the OKC side will get accustomed to these calls. I'd prefer to see these teams go at it without any bull calls because I guarantee that a great basketball game will happen. OKC doesn't even need the calls but now that they adjust their style to get these calls, it hinders their ability and what we wind up seeing is a game where a guy in blue runs into the paint falls and throws a ball up. Yeah, that's basketball.
That is truly pathetic on Stern's part, tbh.... there's no spinning that....
Spurs Sean Elliott said the refs sucked in the game
When was the last time the Thunder didn't get ref help? In that game, how well did they play? We'll never know whether they are any good without the help sadly but I'm almost inclined to agree unless we can see a game where the Thunder aren't awarded free throws, sadly.
Reading the Reddit game thread last night, there were Lakers, Bulls, Rockets, and even OKC fans talking about how many bull calls they get. Yeah. Pretty obvious.
OKC shoots 5 more FT's per game than their opponent. Yeah, without those 4 points a game they'd be pretty damn average! Anyone who thinks the only reason OKC is above mediocrity is due to shooting 5 more FTs a game than their opponent has ZERO credibility and shouldn't even discuss basketball.
Examples of some wins this season with close or deficits in FT's against playoff caliber teams
Chicago +3, 21 FTs
Hou -8, 22 FTs
LAL - 3, 28 FTs
ATL +3, 20 FTs
Hou -4, 23 FTs
Por +4, 22 FTs
LAC -7, 14 FTs
MEM +5, 25 FTs
GS +4, 20 FTs
Chi +3, 27 FTs
LAL -16, 24 FTs
I agree with this post. I'd say with a +5 FT differential per game, OKC probably gets 3-4 ppg more than they should off free throws. Might not sound like much, and they'd still be a good team without bs calls, but a +6 point differential puts them much closer to Nuggets/Grizz company than the elite team they are now (+9.3 currently).
You don't think 4-5 points per game at a crucial moment isn't absolutely huge for momentum, not to mention, actually, you know, getting other players in foul trouble? Do you even watch basketball?
No one is saying the Thunder need help to beat the Tpups or the Cavs 4-5 points in a game or even a SERIES could make all the difference.
Last edited by Cry Havoc; 03-12-2013 at 05:14 PM.
A lot. Sometimes near the court. Different perspective on things vs a seat on the couch. Of course it comes into play. I'm not suggesting it's irrelevant, I'm suggesting that the idea that they are gifts from the refs due to some sort of favoritism and that KD and RW aren't actually fouled most of the time is just absurd. I'm also suggesting that anyone who disagrees that KD and RW's style of play lends itself to being fouled more is also a bit confused.
OKC fan is a blind homer. Did you watch the game, OKC? Do you not see the abuse Perkins is allowed to inflict on Tim down low? Those are fouls that are not called and clearly should be. Putting two hands on someone, pushing, the 100 illegal screens not called. You seriously don't see those illegal screens? Honestly?
And if those were called with regularity: 1) He would stop doing them, 2) It would put them in the bonus way earlier which leads to more FTA.
You are blind if you don't see that.
Also your "style of play" argument doesn't hold water when TP drives as much, if not more than any guard in the league yet doesn't shoot nearly as many FT"s are Durant/WB and he's in the paint with contact every bit as much with an attack minded/driving game.
^Only pussies & assholes blame the officiating.
DPG comes in and immediately takes a cholera-induced dump on Reflahoma fan
^TE gettin' his fart catcher on.
TP PITP: 602
RW PITP: 614
KD PITP: 612
Tony Parker, both by casual observation and statistically is attacking every bit as much (those are season totals and TP has missed games) as your two, but doesn't get nearly as many FT's. Even a casual fan with no statistical knowledge would say TP is one of the fastest attack minded guards in the league - yet why not the FT love?
No one is saying that OKC is cheating - they are simply acknowledging that they get the benefit of the doubt more than any other team at the moment. Denying this is basically being ashamed of it and lying IMO. It's not that OKC gets phantom calls, they earn them. It's that other teams don't get those exact same calls (i.e. TP driving more than them with the same regularity)which is frustrating since their should be no difference (but we all know there is for whatever reason)
Whats really annoying is that Durant intentionally looks for the refs to bail him out and the refs are happy to do so. When the opposing team gets in the penalty he sells any kind of contact and almost always gets the calls. The foul on Kawhi late in the game last night were even Kawhi was in disbelief was a good example. He also does that cheap ass where if anyone has their hand anywhere near him he intentionally goes under the hand as hes going up for the shot...I know Timmy does that occasionally but this dude get 2-3 of those calls per game. Would love for the league to eliminate that call kinda like how they eliminated the call where offensive players threw their bodies at defenders tbh.
Westbrook, for as much of a got and as he is, is relentless at attacking the rim. I dont have a problem with most of his FTAs tbh.
Never seen Tony Parker dunk the ball in my life. Sure he has, just never seen it. Parker plays below the rim. Parker shoots a lot of floaters and tear drops in comparison to Westbrook. Westbrook goes THRU the defender. Parker will not. He's much more evasive. Noone's concerned about Parker going over them and scoring. Westbrook can dunk over many centers in the league. There's clearly a different defensive approach to playing Westbrook than there would be Parker. I realize Parker shoots less FTs despite his aggression, but you also have to admit the way in which Parker attacks is very much different than Westbrook. Yes, Kevin Durant gets superstar calls. I realize that.
Of course Duncan was mauled all night. Duncan is mauled on every single possession if you ask him. Tim Duncan is probably the biggest whiner in the history of the NBA. In fact, he's rated by many as one of the biggest whiner in all of sports. It doesn't surprise me that his fans would adopt the same mindset. Poor, poor victims.
Last edited by OKC; 03-12-2013 at 06:40 PM.
haven't watched them much so i might be wrong, but every time i watch an OKC game i see durant slide his arms under his defender's and lift his arms all of a sudden like he's attempting a shot, when in reality his real attempt is to swindle the freebies
. OKC whines like they don't get more FT's than everyone. OKC is the most coddled team/ref reliant team in the NBA, it's not surprising their fans would see argue against it.
Also, Google, "Kendrick Perkins Illegal Screens", it's not just Duncan or Spurs fans. So there goes that theory. Sad that all OKC fans are this ridiculous.
The rip move. That's not, or at least shouldn't be and rarely is, called a foul on a shot attempt. It's on the floor. It's a smart play honestly. They do not allow it as a shot attempt, which is only fair. However, a defensive approach on KD is to smother him and take away space. One has to give KD credit in getting these calls. It's actually very smart and technically is a foul. A defender cannot impede the forward movement of an offensive player with his arms. Guys like Lebron never fall for it. Know how to defend and you won't be drawn into it.
Grow a pair. Suck it up or stop watching basketball. All the advice I've got for you really.
Also, Google, "Kendrick Perkins Illegal Screens", it's not just Duncan or Spurs fans. So there goes that theory. Sad that all OKC fans are this ridiculous.
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