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    lemme get this straight: you're denying that Nixon denied bombing Cambodia?
    It could be that he did. I would like to see a link on it however. I was trying to recall more of the time I spend with my father and uncle in '69. It could be he was in a position of knowing such secrets he wasn't suppose to speak of, but did to his brother. He was in the Air Force since the Korean war. He had rank and worked a unique position related to 3D mapping of the earth. Very likely helpful for bombing.

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    I want some celebrity that is an Obama koolaid drinker to step up to the plate and denounce Obama's nuthugging of drones.

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    Why do you care so much about celebrities?

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    It's not about me. It's the whole monkey see, monkey do aspect of it. If mindless Obama koolaid drinkers see Oprah, Will Smith, Eva Longoria, Beyonce, Tina Fey, or Jon Stewart bashing Obama on drones then they will follow suit.

    This just makes me laugh. Bush waterboarded people and liberals ed about it 24/7. Obama orders drone attacks that kill babies and little kids and people want to know who he has in the Final Four. It's a in' joke.

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    It's not about me. It's the whole monkey see, monkey do aspect of it. If mindless Obama koolaid drinkers see Oprah, Will Smith, Eva Longoria, Beyonce, Tina Fey, or Jon Stewart bashing Obama on drones then they will follow suit.

    This just makes me laugh. Bush waterboarded people and liberals ed about it 24/7. Obama orders drone attacks that kill babies and little kids and people want to know who he has in the Final Four. It's a in' joke.


    Some of the realist words ever spoken in here. +1

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    you like to hear an echo. I'm not sure you hear anything else.

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    boutons and jacob. you can keep em.

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    I want some celebrity that is an Obama koolaid drinker to step up to the plate and denounce Obama's nuthugging of drones.
    not me, but would you demand the same if Bishop Gecko was using drones to murder all over the planet?

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    NYT: Obama cites a Nixonian precedent

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    It's not about me. It's the whole monkey see, monkey do aspect of it. If mindless Obama koolaid drinkers see Oprah, Will Smith, Eva Longoria, Beyonce, Tina Fey, or Jon Stewart bashing Obama on drones then they will follow suit.
    So you're just upset that celebrities don't influence people the way you want them to.

    Wrongheaded imo.

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    It's not about me. It's the whole monkey see, monkey do aspect of it. If mindless Obama koolaid drinkers see Oprah, Will Smith, Eva Longoria, Beyonce, Tina Fey, or Jon Stewart bashing Obama on drones then they will follow suit.

    This just makes me laugh. Bush waterboarded people and liberals ed about it 24/7. Obama orders drone attacks that kill babies and little kids and people want to know who he has in the Final Four. It's a in' joke.
    There's plenty of objection to drone murders in the liberal/progressive area.

    Never heard any right-wingers here about dubya blowing away Afghanistan wedding parties several times, 10s of people killed each time, nor right-wing outcry about the ongoing cancer, birth defects, etc among Iraqi civilians in Falluja and other depleted uranium bomb targers, just like the US Empire ted decades of disease into VN.

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    And I don't get the faux outrage over the killing of innocents in the pursuit of greater war aims. The US got over that permanently in WWII.

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    There's plenty of objection to drone murders in the liberal/progressive area.

    Never heard any right-wingers here about dubya blowing away Afghanistan wedding parties several times, 10s of people killed each time, nor right-wing outcry about the ongoing cancer, birth defects, etc among Iraqi civilians in Falluja and other depleted uranium bomb targers, just like the US Empire ted decades of disease into VN.
    Wedding parties?

    I thought it was only one. Besides, it was out in the open. All there were involved with the target. Not a great way to do things, but everyone knows if you hang out with criminals, you may have some blow-back on you.

    These attacks Obomba's conducting are killing people who have no involvement with the target. In another country, not considered a war zone. Repeatedly. This should be considered manslaughter at international levels.

    This would be like launching an attack on you next door neighbor, and killing you too.

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    These attacks Obomba's conducting are killing people who have no involvement with the target. In another country, not considered a war zone. Repeatedly. This should be considered manslaughter at international levels.
    So you naturally want Bush treated the same way, right?

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    So you naturally want Bush treated the same way, right?
    Have you looked at the trend and frequency? There is a serious difference in the usage of drone attacks by president. There is obviously a different standard used between them. Bush was very conservative of his drone usage. Obomba is very liberal in using them.

    I say Obomba doesn't give a about the innocent life around the target. I say he is a criminal.

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    Have you looked at the trend and frequency? There is a serious difference in the usage of drone attacks by president. There is obviously a different standard used between them. Bush was very conservative of his drone usage. Obomba is very liberal in using them.

    I say Obomba doesn't give a about the innocent life around the target. I say he is a criminal.
    Do you think what Bush did should be considered "manslaughter at international levels" like Obama?

    Yes or no.

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    LOL...

    Where is the liberal outrage of drones, which kill innocents rather than make enemies uncomfortable?

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    Do you think what Bush did should be considered "manslaughter at international levels" like Obama?

    Yes or no.
    You are dumber than I thought if you think such a complex thing can be summed up to "yes" or "no."

    Do you have a particular incident referring to Bush's drone usage to consider?

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    LOL...

    Where is the liberal outrage of drones, which kill innocents rather than make enemies uncomfortable?
    You don't go where I do. There's PLENTY of progressives and liberals who object to drone assassinations, as I do.

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    You don't go where I do. There's PLENTY of progressives and liberals who object to drone assassinations, as I do.
    Why don't I hear it in the news, like I did waterboarding?

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    You are dumber than I thought if you think such a complex thing can be summed up to "yes" or "no."
    Your answer was a quick, unqualified "yes" for Obama. Why are you hesitating now?

    Do you have a particular incident referring to Bush's drone usage to consider?
    You didn't present one when you accused Obama of manslaughter. Why do you need one for Bush?

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    @WC: a quick search of this forum would disclose no small number of drone related threads, almost all of them based on internet, print or TV news.

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    Why don't I hear it in the news, like I did waterboarding?
    Because you're willfully ignorant.

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