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Fair enough. But yeah, I know which way my terrorist compass is pointing right now.
cant be faded post has been taken out of context
and he said potentially
Fair enough. But yeah, I know which way my terrorist compass is pointing right now.
Yeah, but I know the line of thinking. You have one group of people who claim everything is related to 9/11. Then you have another group who thinks that nothing is related to 9/11.
I'm just tired of all the rhetoric that gets thrown around while the very few people ever care to address the facts in a spinless manner.
OK.
I'm sure that due to the close proximity to the G8 summit they are trying to eliminate ecoterrorist/extremist groups from their investigation.
But most likely Al Queda.
we need a bill o'reilly-esque poster
I, personally, feel safe from terrorism not just while in Brazil, but back in the U.S. as well. I simply don't think about it. Obviously free societies are vulnerable to attacks, and I agree that a less obvious target is probably due next. But I'm not going to give it two thoughts. Unfortunately, I accept that that's how today's world works. Hatred continues to exist and flourish and with advancements in communication and technology, terrorists can gain an upper hand. But, hey, it can be a dangerous world.
The Mayor of London gave a powerful speech regarding London's citizens living together crossing religious and racial boundaries.
Very moving indeed.
al qaida? my money was on some Iraqi citizens from that land of evil...my condolences to the people of london, very sad indeed
Any bets going on how long it will be before the first article materializes proclaiming the George W. Bush White House as orchestrating the whole event?
A horrible tragedy.
I wonder if they will get a "BLAIR KNEW" headline?
I hope not.
Terrible news. I've ridden the tube when I was in London a couple of years ago. They have a terrific mass transportation system there. We need to find Osama.
My friend Tamsyn and her husband and family were foremost in my mind this morning. As soon as I got to work, I went to email her, thinking they were safe in Oxford (where she, her husband and sister live). My heart nearly stopped to see an email from her begining with the line "We arrived in London back from the States this morning . . ." They took the red eye, got into London about 7, and got on a bus a little after 8. They were on the last bus out of London, safe but badly shaken up. They were greatly relieved to see Tata at home waiting for them - she'd intended to head into London today.
I say that, because it's the closest I've come to having someone I care about injured in a terrorist attack. My brother is in Iraq right now (left the day after Christmas with that group from Ft. Sam).
I hate all of this. It's sad and scary and angering. I do believe that this is directed at the G8 conference, and even though lives have been lost, London has gotten off fairly lightly - I pray this is all they get.
Terrorism won't go away, because the people who perpetuate it are people who revel in chaos and disorder. Few of the planners actually believe in the 'cause' (whatever cause that is) - they believe in terror and killing innocents. There is little governments can do about it, but while they try, civil rights begin to erode, and the always delicate balance of freedom and security is placed in even higher jeopardy.
I believe that it should be addressed, and that we shouldn't ignore it or hope it goes away. As long as we remain a world power, we remain a threat. Terrorism won't disappear, and ignoring it is a false hope that it merely strikes elsewhere. I am glad that we went to Iraq and Afghanistan, but afraid that we will pull out too soon because Americans are impatient and want it to be done. If we leave too soon they merely fall into a different despots hands and cause more havoc.
Do I feel more secure today than before 9/11? No - I feel more vulnerable. Ignorance and bliss, you understand. I live in Houston and can recite a litany of reasons Houston is on an attack list - 4th largest city in the nation, petro-chemical refineries that can be fired on from the highway, three major sports teams, energy industry leaders, NASA, high level research, four well placed bombs disabling all traffic and transportation capabilities, tapes seized from an Al-Queda scout who was searching for ways to blow places up.
So no, I do not feel secure - I didn't realize all these things before, but now I do, and I know further how little has been done to increase the security with these things.
And it makes me no more secure to know that Houston is not the only city taking stock like this - nearly every city of any size is doing the same, just as they did in the 50's atmoic bomb scares. It's an odd point of pride, wanting to be high on the list of places to be attacked.
I'm no more secure because my father was stopped at the airport when escorting my brother to his plane to return to Iraq. A nice boarding agent saw what was happening and gave my dad a boarding pass so he could wait with him. Dad had two pocket knives on him and was stopped by 8 police men, strip searched, humiliated and finally allowed to put the knives back in his truck (mind you, he never expected to be allowed beyond security check point, he wasn't boarding a flight), and on his return, they found a nail clipper on his keychain and threatened to arrest him. Two hours spent on this guy who wasn't flying and clearly cooperated by immediately handing over his pocket knives before going through the security check point. Had someone else had something, he might of snuck through in the ruckus over the pocket knives. It's ridiculous.
It's necessary. But not more secure.
Here's a timeline from MSNBC. First attack at 8:51, last one at 9:47. The bombs didn't all go off at the exact same time, as was reported earlier.
From my friend Tamsyn:
"Tata's [her sister] boy rang her to say that his father (a London policeman) said that on no cir stances was she to go to London - apparently, they'd located devices on a number of buses which hadn't gone off.
So yes, it sounds as if it might have been worse. I am now feeling sorry for the crowd of forty fifth graders going on tour of London who were on our flight."
There's some first hand that hasn't been reported yet. It could have been much bigger.
This is horrible. R.I.P. to all those.
the Iraqis were responsible for the London bombings? oh right, its that "osama been forgotten" guy that Cheney and Goss supposedly know where he is but wont go after himnow Bush has another reason to stay in Iraq.
Yep. All Bush's fault.
It's not all Bush's fault, but he's obviously a major factor in the rise of these attacks worldwide
Yep. All Bush's fault.
Bush has blood on his hands, just as everyone involved with our foreign policy.
okay manny, swc, what you say is plausible but since when did Al ing Qaeda become the only terrorist organization on the planet earth, when did they become the only "organization" capable of committing acts of terrorism, why is it that people on this forum instantly think "al qaeda" when they see an act of terrorism
i dont think that all terrorist acts are completely not related to 9/11 but i do know the word al qaeda did and does appear bigger than every other word in magazines/newspapers and people never mentioned al qaeda when the oklahoma city bombing took place, moreover they did not mention al qaeda 10 minutes after it happened.....
u talk of them being the only ones capable of terorrism of that magnitude, well last i saw only 37 have died in england and i think more than that might have died in oklahoma city...
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My response to this is 9/11. Personally, I had never heard of Al Qaeda before that. IMO, the reason that the words "Al Qaeda" are more prominent is that 9/11 was so massive.
yeah of course. Now the common Mariott will instantly think 'al qaeda' after every terrorist act for the remainder of our country's existance.
Why isn't it possible or plausible for another coalition of money laundering rich ass psychos can't pull off terrorism? Why can't they use the INTERNET to find out al-qaeda did their attacks at that certain time and then pull theirs off at that time too?
It is possible and plausible, but you have to admit that Al Qaeda put themselves front and center on the terrorist map with 9/11. Like I said, I didn't know about them before them. I don't know about these other groups that you speak of now. I'm hoping I won't know about them or hear about them any time soon.
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