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    I was talking about the amount you could earn but I was going on heresay primarily. Don't know much bout this, and I hope I don't have to learn it.
    nor do i...for SSI i think the limit is around 1050.00 per household. SGA varies but generally if it is around 1200.00 or so it will probably get you denied

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    Does anyone know if veteran's disability claims accounted for in the stats in the op?

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    vets? expensive, for a 100 years

    US Still Paying Billions in Benefits to Deal With Psychological Effects of War

    More than $40 billion annually is being paid out to soldiers and survivors of the Civil War, the Spanish-American War in 1898, both World Wars, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War, the Iraq war and the war in Afghanistan, according to an analysis by the Associated Press.


    Two children of Civil War veterans -- one in Tennessee and the other in North Carolina -- are each receiving $876 a year. Another 10 are getting benefits, averaging about $5,000 a year, connected to the 1898 Spanish-American War.

    http://truth-out.org/news/item/15298...-benefits-to-c

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    Understood they're expensive, but wondering if they're includeded in the disability claims cited in the op or are these accounted for separately under the VA.

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    good point.

    does the graph in the article measure gross numbers on disability, or just SSD?

    (honest question, do not know.)
    You have to add that some people on disability also augment their earnings with long-term disability insurance, if their last job included such coverage. In many cases, that's a for-life benefit that augments the federal benefit, and I suspect it also discourages some of that people from taking on low income jobs they might be able to do.

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    Understood they're expensive, but wondering if they're includeded in the disability claims cited in the op or are these accounted for separately under the VA.
    Whether vet payments are included or not, seems like vets are getting screwed, under-spent :

    A new study released on Tuesday by the Ins ute of Medicine found that the Department of Defense and the Veterans Affairs Departments are not providing adequate care for the 44 percent of U.S. troops returning from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan who have “reported difficulties after they returned,” such as mental and physical ailments.


    “Although several federal agencies are actively trying to address the support needs of current and former service members deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan as well as their families, the response has been slow and has not matched the magnitude of this population’s requirements as many cope with a complex set of health, economic, and other challenges,” said report co-author George Rutherford.

    Among its findings, the report said the VA and DOD should properly assess whether certain treatments for returning troops are effective and that they should “link and integrate” their databases to track personnel issues more closely. The report also said DOD and the VA should “expand its definition of family” to include unmarried partners, same sex couples, single parents and stepfamilies and it questioned the DOD’s policy that bans preventing vets access to private weapons “even if a service member is at risk from suicide.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/security/20...s-health-care/

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    Understood they're expensive, but wondering if they're includeded in the disability claims cited in the op or are these accounted for separately under the VA.
    A little reading reveals that Vets can apply for SSDI benefits, so I assume they are included in the OP's figures. Vets also receive thru the VA, which is separate for SS.

    http://www.ssa.gov/woundedwarriors/

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    A little reading reveals that Vets can apply for SSDI benefits, so I assume they are included in the OP's figures. Vets also receive thru the VA, which is separate for SS.

    http://www.ssa.gov/woundedwarriors/
    Thanks. It seems plausible that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan could be one factor driving the the increase in disability claims

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    Thanks. It seems plausible that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan could be one factor driving the the increase in disability claims
    Definitely plausible but pretty hard to quantify. Probably have to dig quite a bit to get to those figures.

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    biggest disability that would be claimed would be PTSD (asides from the obvious physical ones). if a vet is service connected he or she can still get that (from the VA) as well as DIB from the SSA. but, that vet would most likely not be eligible for SSI.

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    counterpoint:


    Here's a U Illinois professor respectfully critiquing the piece on the Huffington Post:
    Ms. Joffe-Walt, who is neither an economist nor a specialist on disability, is making a claim that in an economics class would be red penciled with the corrective...

    The logical error in her reporting comes from simply assuming that the rising number of people on disability is the result of the collusion between poor unemployed people and cash-strapped states. But the reality may be closer to the fact that the Baby Boomer generation, as it ages, becomes more and more subject to impairments that lead to disabilities. Since a third of people with disabilities are those with mental disorders, it is also no surprise that the dramatic rise in diagnoses of depression, OCD, and autism in the same period have had an impact on these statistics.
    In These Times and the great Dean Baker also went after the Planet Money piece with padded kid gloves; perhaps they were thrown off by the fatal assumption that Planet Money and NPR are on the same progressive team as they.
    https://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/un...f97e69373d662/

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    SSI. $$$$ Is just a phone call away!




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    Right-Wing Media Miss The Facts On Disability Fraud

    Right-wing media misleadingly hyped a congressional hearing to falsely claim that disability fraud is leading to increased claims and depleting the Social Security Disability Trust Fund.

    However, testimony from a Social Security Administration official at the hearing revealed that fraud is not a major problem in the disability program and demographic changes explain increased disability claims.

    http://mediamatters.org/research/201...ility-f/194669

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