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scoreboard seems to say more public spending in a variety of areas -- including health and social security -- correlates positively with GDP growth.
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scoreboard seems to say more public spending in a variety of areas -- including health and social security -- correlates positively with GDP growth.
nice article:
http://www.zcommunications.org/the-d...3-by-tom-mills
That was '86 actually
She was certainly a polarizing figure, and if I have to give her credit for something is the union busting she did when she walked in as PM. She, however, was not immune to what happens to most politicians on power trips.
Sir show some class.
she was public figure whose policies affecting 10Ms of people, many very negatively. Dying doesn't sanctify her, or St Ronnie. The Brits know better than you bubbas.
For Some Britons, Thatcher's Death Provokes Celebrations
A young man is parading the streets of the city of Glasgow with a slogan daubed onto the back of his black leather jacket in big, freshly painted white letters. "We're havin' a party," it declares. "Thatcher's dead."
In what was the coal belt of northern England, a burly former miner lights up an enormous cigar and takes a satisfied puff. He says he's looking forward to a few celebratory drinks.
Hundreds of miles to the south, in Brixton, south London, a boisterous crowd prances around, joyously boozing and setting off fireworks under the wary gaze of police in riot gear.
In Britain as elsewhere, there is a general taboo about speaking ill of the deceased in the immediate aftermath of death. No matter how deeply you loathe the individual concerned, you're expected to show a degree of respect and keep your lip buttoned.
Yet the death of Margaret Thatcher has unleashed a level of vitriol and glee among some of her fellow citizens that suggests this custom carries no weight in parts of her home country, at least in her case.
Critics On The Streets, And In Cyberspace
There is a tsunami of attacks on Thatcher in cyberspace. The number of downloads of Judy Garland's version of "Ding, Dong! The Witch is Dead" from The Wizard of Oz has been soaring to the top of the charts, thanks to an online campaign.
On the streets, graffiti artists have been at work. "Iron Lady? Rust In Peace," says a sign sprayed on a wall in Belfast, Northern Ireland.
"Rot in , Maggie Thatcher," says another.
Concerns are emerging about possible civil disorder at Thatcher's funeral next Wednesday, when her coffin will make a short journey through the heart of London on a horse-drawn gun carriage to St Paul's Cathedral. Thousands of police will be deployed. In the coming days, Britain's security services will rummage through the Internet in search of anyone planning disruptive protests.
Thatcher's "greatest virtue by far was how little she cared if people liked her," Hugo Young, author of a highly acclaimed unauthorized biography, said in a Guardian article written shortly before his own death in 2003 but published on Tuesday.
It is just as well she cared so little.
The reaction to Thatcher's death has revealed that 23 years after she was thrown out of office, a significant number of Britons still hate her. Like Thatcher herself, they do not care a jot what people think of them for speaking their mind.
Tributes Of Support As Well
It is important to put this in context: Those who have taken to the streets actively to celebrate Margaret Thatcher's demise are a tiny minority and include activists from the far left. The Socialist Workers Party, for example, is distributing posters saying "Rejoice! Rejoice!"
Glowing tributes to Thatcher have come from far and wide and are still streaming in. Half of the Britons surveyed in a Guardian/ICM poll view her overall contribution to the United Kingdom as positive.
Yet divisions run deep. A third of the respondents to that same poll think the Iron Lady was bad for her country. Many of them are now making little effort to conceal their hostility toward her.
Some are even grumbling about the cost of her funeral and of recalling Parliament for Wednesday's debate paying tribute to her. There's a tradition in Britain's soccer stadiums of holding a minute's silence to honor the death of notable figures before kickoff.
The sport's governing officials have decided Thatcher's death will not be marked in this way, because of the risk of offensive boos and jeers. Some former coal miners and their families are reportedly planning parties to coincide with her funeral.
Irreconcilable Views
Why is all this happening?
The Internet, with its tendency to magnify extremes, is playing a role. But the bottom line is this: Britons hold totally opposing and irreconcilable views of Margaret Thatcher's legacy.
Her supporters remember her as the savior of a country that, when she took power in 1979, was on the brink of economic collapse. She broke the grip over government held by trade unions, and she heroically defended her nation's sovereignty, especially in the European Union.
Her opponents remember riots, spending cuts, a costly war in the Falkland Islands, the destruction of the coal industry after a bruising yearlong confrontation with striking mines. They recall a leader who sold off national assets, deregulated banking, and was an ally of Rupert Murdoch, whose hold over the British media grew dramatically during her rule.
The acrimonious tinge to the debate over Thatcher's legacy is adding strain to the fault lines lurking beneath Britain's political landscape today.
The bull-horn of the right, The Daily Mail, angrily declared Wednesday that "30 years of Left wing loathing for Lady T" have exploded in "sick celebrations." The tabloid includes a list of critical comments about her death from various performers, politicians and others — and brands these people as "old Lefties, spewing bile."
Calls For Restraint
Thatcher's former mainstream opponents are calling for restraint. The leader of the opposition Labour Party, Ed Miliband, is thought to have asked his parliamentarians to respond respectfully to her death.
There's no better example of the strange twists and turns of history than an appeal made by Sinn Fein's Martin McGuinness, deputy first minister of Northern Ireland.
McGuinness is a former senior figure in the Irish Republican Army that for so long was at war with Thatcher's government. He has also asked people not to celebrate Thatcher's death.
"She was not a peacemaker, but it is a mistake to allow her death to poison our minds," he said.
Perhaps the most eye-catching response comes from Tony Blair. Like Thatcher, he was a three-term prime minister. Like her, he is a divisive figure, largely because of his decision to join the U.S. in the unpopular Iraq War that began in 2003. He says the celebrations of Thatcher's death are "in poor taste."
Asked by a BBC interviewer whether he's worried about a similar public response when he dies, he said: "When you decide, you divide."
Blair thought Thatcher would have been "pretty philosophical" about her nation's response to her death, and added: "I hope I will be too."
http://m.npr.org/news/front/176779058
Blair of course has bee recently proved/investigated to have known Saddam had no WMD, and lied like his buddies in the WH did. Blair is a war criminal, too.
Why? Was she a close personal friend?
lol the govt puttin 15m to do her funeral...wtf
My memory could be bad and I am sure a google search would answer but I thought Argentina beat England in a shoot out in 1998 in the Round of 16? I was in Buenos Aires at the time and people were going crazy. Made me love the world cup after that experience. Wasn't 86 the mano de dios?That was '86 actually
You're correct in your recollection. But '86 had much more significance when it comes to Thatcher and the Falklands since the war was still fresh (war was in '82), and that's the famous 'hand of god' goal, along with one of the best goals you're going to see in a world cup. Arg not only beat England, it also won it all. Last time they won a world cup.
and on top of that-the argentinians get messi and the brits had beckham
London braces for massive party to ‘celebrate’ Thatcher’s death
Police were braced on Saturday for a mass “party” staged by opponents of Margaret Thatcher in London’s Trafalgar Square to celebrate her death.Mayor of London Boris Johnson said the authorities were prepared for potential violence, after trouble erupted at several impromptu street celebrations following the death of the former British prime minister on Monday.Any unrest is likely to feed concerns about security at the Iron Lady’s funeral in the capital on Wednesday, which will be attended by Queen
Elizabeth II, Prime Minister David Cameron and 2,000 guests, including many political and world figures.
No formal demonstration has been organised for Saturday, but over 1,500 people have pledged on Facebook to attend a “Thatcher’s Dead” party at Trafalgar Square at 6:00 p.m. (1700 GMT).
Representatives of the coal miners who battled Thatcher in a year-long strike in 1984-5, before accepting sweeping pit closures, were planning to travel to the capital for the event alongside students and left-wing groups, The Guardian reported.
Some football fans were threatening to confront the anti-Thatcher revellers on their way home from the FA Cup semi-final between Millwall and Wigan in Wembley, north-west London, The Daily Telegraph reported.
Trafalgar Square is one of London’s biggest tourist hubs, home to the Nelson’s Column monument and the National Gallery.
A spokesman for Scotland Yard said officers had “contacted a number of individuals who have stated they intend to take part in protest on Saturday”.
London’s mayor said people were en led to demonstrate but warned police would take a tough line on any violence.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/1...e+Raw+Story%29
Now there's some people who know who to hate and who to kick as an extremely controversial and harmful , whose neo-liberal bull continues to this day with UK triple-dip austerity recession.
Can we have such a party here when Carter dies?
What would the media say?
go right ahead.
A bigger party was missed when St Ronnie died.
Truth. When Cheney hits dirt should be a national holiday though.
Your on some sorta watch list now bum....I don't like to dance on anyone grave but...could she have been more hated than Cheney? Seems incredible..
n/m
Do you want to have one?
Yes or no.
Russell Brand on Margaret Thatcher: 'I always felt sorry for her children'
when I was a child she was just a strict woman telling everyone off and selling everything off
"We didn't just break the strike, we broke the spell." The spell he was referring to is the unseen bond that connects us all and prevents us from being subjugated by tyranny. The spell of community.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...garet-thatcher
http://jokideo.com/margaret-thatcher-dead-joke/
Last edited by boutons_deux; 04-15-2013 at 06:32 AM.
doesn't exists jeebus
You liberals just despise the wise lady. She was right about so many things.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money [to spend]." Thatcher
wise?
the problem with unregulated, criminal, predatory capitalism is the 1% ends up with all the money.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 04-15-2013 at 07:36 AM.
Even in death she is creating more jobs than Obama.
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