Steve Kerr's vote for 1st team All-NBA

[superbigtime]

Very good player Gasol but Timmy gets my vote. I'm surprised that nobody mentions how poor a rebounder Gasol is for his size, Brook Lopez always get marked down for this reason and they rebound at a similar rate with BL pulling down 6.9 in 30.4 mins and MG 7.8 in 35 mins.

I didn't mention, but I'll sure agree w you. Gasol is an average rebounder.

[Libri]

Marc related to Paul Gasol, who plays for the Lakers, thus Marc Gasol over Tim Duncan.

[Obstructed_View]

Historically, how does TD and MG do against each other?

[ThaBigFundamental21]

I hope we play those mother ers in the WCF and Tim Duncan goes 03 on that SOB. I am so sick of this . Bring it Gasoft, Tim will make you look like your overrated brother. Then when Marc and Pau get old they can tell their grand kids the story of how The Great Tim Duncan humiliated them both.

[TDfan2007]

Historically, how does TD and MG do against each other?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...01#stats::none

[TD 21]

It's funny how awards that are supposed to be about excellence become about being just plain good when you're white. They're not in the same league and if Gasol were "black", his weaknesses (atrocious defensive rebounder considering his overwhelming size and severe lack of assertiveness on offense) would be magnified and his skill would be secondary. Yet in typical media fashion, they relentlessly slobber over him, just as they have Nowitzki, Love and his brother. It never fails.

I hope the Spurs get the Grizzlies in the WCF, too, so that Duncan can make these idiots who think they're smarter than they are look like fools and so that they can get revenge.

[Obstructed_View]

Yeah, it's disgusting how much respect white men get in basketball...wait wut?

[Leetonidas]

Gasol has no argument over Duncan, period, anywhere. Only a couple advanced stats barely favor him. Kerr and Bowen proving that playing in the NBA doesn't mean you know about evaluating talent

[Obstructed_View]

I think Timmy's ex-teammates are trying so hard to ingratiate themselves with ESPN that they don't dare say anything nice about the Spurs. I'm a little surprised Scott Van Pelt was able to go on that little rant about how good the Spurs are without having his show pulled from the air.

[Baynes]

As wonderful as the rejuvenated TD has been, MG has better season numbers.

kill yourself please

[TheGoldStandard]

If ESPN says it then I take it as a total fabrication.

[spurraider21]

Gasol has no argument over Duncan, period, anywhere. Only a couple advanced stats barely favor him. Kerr and Bowen proving that playing in the NBA doesn't mean you know about evaluating talent

i think MJ proved the out of that

[TheGoldStandard]

i think MJ proved the out of that

Kawmi Brown and Adam Morrison send MJ Christmas cards every year

[Sean Cagney]

As wonderful as the rejuvenated TD has been, MG has better season numbers.

No he didn't. Tim played less mins too.

[Kidd K]

If they want to say Marc Gasol over Duncan for defensive team, okay (though I don't agree with that either). But regular all NBA? Marc Gasol is absolutely not better than Duncan unless this is just a "he played 80 games to Duncan's 69" thing. When playing, Duncan has been better.

To be fair to the argument, there is a hint in the more advanced metrics that Gasol had a better season. Gasol was slightly better in WS/48, had a slightly better true shooting percentage, and a significantly higher offensive rating (115 to 107) despite having a considerably lower usage rate (Duncan -- 27.8; Gasol -- 19.2).

With that said, the wonks who've jumped on the Gasol bandwagon seem to defend any choice of Gasol over Duncan this season based on the fact that Gasol played 700 more minutes than Duncan; they seem to argue that it's better to be pretty good for almost 3000 minutes than to be really, really good for about 2000 minutes.

I always like stats, but you're reading those wrong man.

Gasol's lower usage rate is why his TS% is higher. When your usage rate is low, it means you don't heavily contribute to your team's offensive rating too. He contributes, but it's slightly less than the average share for 5 guys on the court (20% would be average). Not exactly impressive for an All NBA 1st teamer.

For reference, James Harden has much higher PPG this year than last, but noticably lower TS%. . .because his USG% went up which made his efficiency go down since he was more of a focal point of the offense in Houston than he was in OKC. So despite Gasol's extra minutes, his stats are still lower in most categories because the guys around him are doing as much work as him. He only does about 1/5th. Duncan on the other hand does over 1/4th of it whenever he's on the court. So he can carry his team offensively at times, while Gasol usually just does a typical, average share.