Heat: Rodman says if Lebron played during the 90's he'd just be an average player

[Rogue]

Lebron is soft. Case closed.

If lebron was soft then you probably wouldn't mind me dashing your ed-up head against the wall tbh

Bron is tough as a rock tbh. he played against some 90' legends who were still in primes (Kobe, KG etc...) and he already looked just as good as them (if not better) when he was still far from his prime

[DMC]

try to pay attention at the context of what we are discussing you stupid inbred

we are talking about Rodman's comment's on Lebron's LEVEL of play. Not style. The entire discussion in this thread is about level not style ya stupid

It doesn't matter what everyone else is saying ya ing nip got, you said "Larry Bird type" which does NOT mean "same level as".

So is Dwight Howard a Chris Paul type player? They are both considered the best at their position so they are at the same level.

type (tp)n.1. A number of people or things having in common traits or characteristics that distinguish them as a group or class.

You're an idiot.

James and Bird have nothing in common.

[hitmanyr2k]

If lebron was soft then you probably wouldn't mind me dashing your ed-up head against the wall tbh

Bron is tough as a rock tbh. he played against some 90' legends who were still in primes (Kobe, KG etc...) and he already looked just as good as them (if not better) when he was still far from his prime

Lebron has probably come up in the softest era ever. He's never truly experienced the NBA Kobe and KG played in or any other 90's legend for that matter. He came in at the perfect time where the NBA was suffering from image problems (after the Malice at the Palace) and scoring was down. Fans who love defense didn't give a f**k but the the NBA figured casual fans wanted to see more scoring so they tried to artificially manufacture higher scoring games with rule changes that were a great benefit to the perimeter stars of the league since those rule changes practically handcuffed defenders. As a result you had perimeter players all over the place with inflated numbers. These new rules also ushered in the offensive flopping era. The perimeter stars recognized that they were always going to get the benefit of any contact even if they initiated it so that started the flailing theatrics, guys whipping their limbs around after shots, the verbal flops with players screaming like they were getting murdered, the rip-thru move, etc. It's ridiculous it took almost a decade for the league to finally start doing something about players making a mockery of the game.

It's also noteworthy that good big men are going extinct and then there's that ridiculous defensive 3 second rule on top of that. If a bum like Hibbert is going to make Lebron think twice about going to the rim then I'd like to see him in an era with the likes of Robinson, Mourning, Mutombo, Hakeem, Shaq, Ewing, etc.

[Chief Brody]

Lebron has probably come up in the softest era ever. He's never truly experienced the NBA Kobe and KG played in or any other 90's legend for that matter. He came in at the perfect time where the NBA was suffering from image problems (after the Malice at the Palace) and scoring was down. Fans who love defense didn't give a f**k but the the NBA figured casual fans wanted to see more scoring so they tried to artificially manufacture higher scoring games with rule changes that were a great benefit to the perimeter stars of the league since those rule changes practically handcuffed defenders. As a result you had perimeter players all over the place with inflated numbers. These new rules also ushered in the offensive flopping era. The perimeter stars recognized that they were always going to get the benefit of any contact even if they initiated it so that started the flailing theatrics, guys whipping their limbs around after shots, the verbal flops with players screaming like they were getting murdered, the rip-thru move, etc. It's ridiculous it took almost a decade for the league to finally start doing something about players making a mockery of the game.

It's also noteworthy that good big men are going extinct and then there's that ridiculous defensive 3 second rule on top of that. If a bum like Hibbert is going to make Lebron think twice about going to the rim then I'd like to see him in an era with the likes of Robinson, Mourning, Mutombo, Hakeem, Shaq, Ewing, etc.

How's your white wife doing, scrah?

[lefty]

Well Rodman has a point TBH :

Rachel Nichols ✔ @Rachel__Nichols1-on-1 w/LeBron. Told me sometimes he wishes in just 1 game the other team's D wasn't keyed on him but he's okay w/it pic.twitter.com/iAEoa5rGLl

[TDMVPDPOY]

there are only handful of players who can play in any era and dominate

to say lebron cant do that in jordans era is a load of bull , jordan played against HORSE SGs at his position.....where the gap is so wide that the 2nd best SG was who? clyde? spree? during the 90s

[~O~]

I think most of all, the three second violation rule saved LeBron's career. LeBron is scared to death of all-star big men such as Roy Hibbert and Dwight Howard. Without the three second violation...they'll be there waiting..and camping in the paint. The three second violation is a blessing for his career and other all-star shooting guards after 2001. Notice that the 90's had great all-star centers and notice that they were completely eliminated after the rule was instated. There are popular centers out there but they aren't the face of the NBA are they?

[bluebellmaniac]

LeBron in the 80s would have been comical. Are you kidding me? A bigger stronger faster Magic Johnson running the court? Dude would have averaged 35+.

Your "tough" league consisted of absolutely no defense, even in the finals. Giving hard fouls is not tantamount to playing good defense. Go back and watch the tapes from the NBA Finals in the 80s. No team put the effort into defense that teams do today.

Bron would be no where close to being as big as he is now if he played in the 80's. There is no doubt in my mind that he owes quite a bit to modern supplements. You didn't have the equivalent back then. In the 80's, it was a challenge to put weight on thin NBA players. That is never even mentioned anymore. Bron growing up without his muscle supplements in the 80's would put him as an average player, at best. Much of what he does today is based on his 'beast mode' that overpowers opponents. He doesn't do that if he lived in the 80's. If you don't adjust for it, then imagine what a beast Magic would have been if he had the benefit of todays supplements and 'Kobe' treatments in Germany.

[AaronY]

Lebron has probably come up in the softest era ever. He's never truly experienced the NBA Kobe and KG played in or any other 90's legend for that matter. He came in at the perfect time where the NBA was suffering from image problems (after the Malice at the Palace) and scoring was down. Fans who love defense didn't give a f**k but the the NBA figured casual fans wanted to see more scoring so they tried to artificially manufacture higher scoring games with rule changes that were a great benefit to the perimeter stars of the league since those rule changes practically handcuffed defenders. As a result you had perimeter players all over the place with inflated numbers. These new rules also ushered in the offensive flopping era. The perimeter stars recognized that they were always going to get the benefit of any contact even if they initiated it so that started the flailing theatrics, guys whipping their limbs around after shots, the verbal flops with players screaming like they were getting murdered, the rip-thru move, etc. It's ridiculous it took almost a decade for the league to finally start doing something about players making a mockery of the game.

It's also noteworthy that good big men are going extinct and then there's that ridiculous defensive 3 second rule on top of that. If a bum like Hibbert is going to make Lebron think twice about going to the rim then I'd like to see him in an era with the likes of Robinson, Mourning, Mutombo, Hakeem, Shaq, Ewing, etc.

Troof bombs

[LkrFan]

Yeah, LeBron is so mentally weak, despite succeeding in the face of the ridiculous hate spewed towards him by analysts, former players, and fans alike....

- that son. He only succeeded after The Collusion! son. These are things we know. And the only media that hated LBJ was in Cleveland and we all know why (even BSPN took their talents to South Beach ) We also know the Cleveland media would eat his (literally) if it meant he'd return there...As far as former player hate - that don't bother him. The fans? He told us about that too. He don't GAF about the fans who hates on him.

You have no idea who your idealized "true greats" would have joined to win a ring with today's unrestricted free agency and 24/7 media criticism, tbh....

Please. Magic wouldn't have done it. Bird wouldn't have done it. MJ wouldn't have done it. These are true all time greats - not just a few cats who made a couple all star games then said it and joined their rivals because they wanted to take the easy way out.

Quit slobbing on LeBron and admit Rodman was right son.

[LkrFan]

Lebron has probably come up in the softest era ever. He's never truly experienced the NBA Kobe and KG played in or any other 90's legend for that matter. He came in at the perfect time where the NBA was suffering from image problems (after the Malice at the Palace) and scoring was down. Fans who love defense didn't give a f**k but the the NBA figured casual fans wanted to see more scoring so they tried to artificially manufacture higher scoring games with rule changes that were a great benefit to the perimeter stars of the league since those rule changes practically handcuffed defenders. As a result you had perimeter players all over the place with inflated numbers. These new rules also ushered in the offensive flopping era. The perimeter stars recognized that they were always going to get the benefit of any contact even if they initiated it so that started the flailing theatrics, guys whipping their limbs around after shots, the verbal flops with players screaming like they were getting murdered, the rip-thru move, etc. It's ridiculous it took almost a decade for the league to finally start doing something about players making a mockery of the game.

It's also noteworthy that good big men are going extinct and then there's that ridiculous defensive 3 second rule on top of that. If a bum like Hibbert is going to make Lebron think twice about going to the rim then I'd like to see him in an era with the likes of Robinson, Mourning, Mutombo, Hakeem, Shaq, Ewing, etc.

hitman with the IDGAF goods.

/end thread

[LkrFan]

It was in the context of scoring points. MJ got a lot of calls and therefore scored more points. Hard fouls are completely off topic.

Besides, you can talk about people hitting LeBron all you want, but I'm guessing James would do some serious damage if he were allowed to lay lumber on players like it happened back in the day.

Hard fouls are precisely what I was talking about - so it's on topic.

When was the last flagrant foul you've seen LeBron give? At 6'8" 270lbs you'd think he'd lay the lumber on someone by now. I don't think he has because he's incapable. It's not in his DNA.

[The Reckoning]

holy jackson knocks that dude the F out @ 2:00

[LkrFan]

According to some. I think Kareem has a legit argument as GOAT.

The media hates KAJ and loves MJ. But you right, KAJ is the true GOAT.

[hater]

It doesn't matter what everyone else is saying ya ing nip got, you said "Larry Bird type" which does NOT mean "same level as".

So is Dwight Howard a Chris Paul type player? They are both considered the best at their position so they are at the same level.

type (tp)n.1. A number of people or things having in common traits or characteristics that distinguish them as a group or class.

LOL looking up definition on the net. I got your point the first time. Just telling you that my comparison criteria was self explanatory to anyone with an IQ above a seamonkey's

Next time I'll be more careful with the terms so mongoloids like you don't go all loony and their diapers

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

my neger

[TDMVPDPOY]

this clown played most of his careeer in the pathetic east

[lefty]

Rodman with the goods


Kirby and Lebrn pls woudn't have survived back then