Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming

[usckk]

How long can LLE deals be in the new CBA?

I think its probably 5. But i'm not sure.

[Extra Stout]

Perhaps 6?

They were 2 years in the old one, I think.

[usckk]

Yeah, your probabaly right

[constantstate]

Here's another:

4. Spurs sign Oberto using the LLE and Scola the MLE. Keep Nesterovic (for now). Address the small forward position by signing whoever they can get using potential MLE leftovers or a minimum contract. Horry, Nesterovic and Scola would be the 3 bigmen on the active roster and Oberto would be on IR.

Marcus... Oberto can play both the 5 and 4 although he's a bit small. Rasho's contract is locked up and he can play "big" centers. Nazr's would be great trade bait, wouldnt he? (especially with his contract)

Also, can you tell me if the Spurs can sign and trade Scola... or would he be more valuable as an unsigned draft pick? (his rights)

[Notorious H.O.P.]

Rasho for SAR probably makes some sense for Portland, as least more than a trade exemption they're aren't going to use. This might put the pressure on Thorn to use that first round pick before the Spurs get involved in serious discussions about something like this.

If this is true, I'm assuming they told Scola that with Horry in the fold as the primary big off the bench, he'd be limited in minutes and that some more minutes might be available the following year depending how everything shakes out.

If they move Rasho, they might be able to sign Scola but I'm unsure how willing Pop is to move him. I recall also reading a Rasho for Darius Miles rumor someplace but it may have been some posters wet dream. The other option is that we trade Scola's rights to someone for a small forward. I'd rather see what Scola is made of but his stock is pretty high right now and his price seems reasonable. Spurs might be inclined to make a move now, especially with Ian or Javtokas possibly coming in a couple of years after Horry starts slowing down.

[zeleni]

What about crazy scenario?

Nazr returns to Knicks to play beside Malik,
Oberto plays secondtune with starting center Rasho, Scola becomes the PF in training with Horry and Duncan as mentors. Marks and Robinson go away and we get the second in a row.

Now reading, scenario isn't quite that crazy. Future.

[Solid D]

Just got in and saw this.

Great news! When this guy is healthy, he is a complete player and he has good size (6'10"). He's been on the Spurs' (and our) radar for several years.

[velik_m]

Nazr returns to Knicks to play beside Malik,

the crazy part

[waly.mg]

The Scola agent is the same

[nkdlunch]

Scola >>> Oberto in value. SO I hope we can still get Scola. And don't get your hopes up too much on Oberto.

[Marcus Bryant]

Yeah, it was two years for the LLE in the old CBA.

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#17

So Oberto would be getting some part of the MLE if he got a 3 year deal, unless he agreed to sign for the league minimum, which seems unlikely.

[spurster]

It sounds like the nego ions over Scola's buyout fell through.

Assuming typical Spurs thriftiness/cheapness, they will wait to see if Oberto can be a decent backup. In that case, they keep Rasho, let Nazr go next year, and bring in Scola next year, leading to a bigman roster of TD, Rasho, Horry, Oberto, and Scola.

As far as swingmen are concerned, the Spurs can resign Devin and LJ III. This leaves the swingmen a little small, but Manu, Bowen, and Brent would probably get the most minutes in any case.

[usckk]

Yeah, it's two years for the LLE.

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#17

So Oberto would be getting some part of the MLE.

Maybe the CBA changed the years from 2 to 3.

[Marcus Bryant]

The Scola agent is the same

Then he probably told Fold that Scola isn't coming over.

[ChumpDumper]

Well think about it -- without a buyout, Scola's asking price drops to LLE level no questions asked.

Easily worth the wait if the Spurs are looking to use the MLE elsewhere.

[usckk]

Well think about it -- without a buyout, Scola's asking price drops to LLE level no questions asked.

Easily worth the wait if the Spurs are looking to use the MLE elsewhere.

Agreed.

[Marcus Bryant]

These are definitely nice problems to have.

[usckk]

These are definitely nice problems to have.

Haha, yup!

[FromWayDowntown]

Whatever may be moving with Rasho, I'd be fairly certain that the Spurs aren't doing anything with Rasho until they know what the story is with Nazr. It would be a nightmare for the Spurs to trade Rasho this summer, only to find next summer that they can't meet Nazr's demands. In that scenario, you go from 2 quality centers to none in one year. I'd think that if the Spurs can't get Nazr locked up this summer for an acceptable price, any trades involving centers would see Nazr and not Rasho gone.

[waly.mg]

If TD need a rest or lose some games, Scola can take the Spot, but not Oberto

[usckk]

If TD need a rest or lose some games, Scola can take the Spot, but not Oberto

Why not?

[Marcus Bryant]

If the Spurs were committed to keeping Nazr wouldn't there be chatter about a possible extension already?

I know the Spurs like to keep things quiet, but still, where's the smoke?

[usckk]

If the Spurs were committed to keeping Nazr wouldn't we have heard something about his extension already?

Probably because Nazr want to wait after next season when he can sign a bigger contract.

[constantstate]

Whatever may be moving with Rasho, I'd be fairly certain that the Spurs aren't doing anything with Rasho until they know what the story is with Nazr.

i think so too... nazr just became trade bait. oberto can play the 4/5 and rasho can play big centers (and has a friendly contract) - all of a sudden.

[waly.mg]

Scola can score