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    Eventually the series was going to come down to the star players. The Heat Big 3 stepped up. The Spurs Big 3 didn't.
    Thats all that really needs to be said. They have stars, the Spurs do not anymore outside of Tony Parker. Going to take two monumental efforts at this point. Hopefully the Spurs have it in them.

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    Another thought: championships are really hard to win, especially against teams that win 66 games with two first ballot Hall of Famers and an elite defense. But with two days rest they have a great shot to be up 3-2 going to Miami, which is what I have been hoping for this entire series.

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    Wade was difference. When Tim was on the bench, he drove. When Tim out there, he shot jumpers. He had a great 2nd half finally. No Parker in second half.

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    20 turnovers ain't gonna cut it, btw. that's too much to overcome.

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    I couldn't agree with you more. Imagine if you're Miami. Imagine your delight in seeing the Spurs take out their 2nd best big essentially before the game even started. They LOVED Gary Neal coming in for Splitter.

    Reckless, reactionary, emotional coaching for a man who likes to preach humility and getting over yourself. I think the game turned at that precise point.
    Not just that. It opened up the paint. A team that is struggling with confidence and shooting was helped by being able to get into the paint. As much as ST likes to criticize Tiago, his greatest benefit to the starting 5 isn't offense but defensively. We lost the chance to set a defensive tone from the start of the game and allowed them to get a good offensive rhythm.

    Now if TP could figure out how to pass to the bigs on the pick and roll this series would be over by now.

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    -Manu Ginobili. I don’t even have to type much more. The Spurs needed a big game from him with Parker dealing with his hamstring injury … but instead got possibly the worst game he’s ever played. All we can do is hope for a bounce back in Game 5.



    I'm sorry, this is tolerable from a gnsf, you disapoint me greatly timvp. I counted at least 4 excellent passes from Manu that left Splitter (3) and Duncan (1) under the basket with a great chance to score. Would they have done it and you would have changed to something like "he didn't shoot, but excellent passing, etc", just like we are used to see lately from him. Now this players were blocked and this was the worst game in his career. Shame on you timvp.

    The heat played very good defense I think, also, so props to them for that (judges were a bit permissive too, and that sucks), and many of our guys shrinked against their tenacity (not manu, who didn't shoot much because he dimmed that was the best for the team), IMHO.

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    -Manu Ginobili. I don’t even have to type much more. The Spurs needed a big game from him with Parker dealing with his hamstring injury … but instead got possibly the worst game he’s ever played. All we can do is hope for a bounce back in Game 5. .
    All the man who hope for Manu Ginobili 's a bounce back in Game 5 is a stupid

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    I really ing hope ter isn't in silver and black next year. I've never seen such a pussy display in professional sports, and I was forced to watch Jefferson for years.
    Cosigned.

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    Well, Breaking news: Miami is a damn great team.

    You can put this loss on some players but I find that Spurs as a whole played a good game. Miami was just the better team tonight and I wear that this trend will carry on for the rest of the series that will end with Heat winning in 6.
    Another thought: championships are really hard to win, especially against teams that win 66 games with two first ballot Hall of Famers and an elite defense. But with two days rest they have a great shot to be up 3-2 going to Miami, which is what I have been hoping for this entire series.
    Spurs fans find themselves an underdog for the first time in the Finals. Its hard to swallow. I don't think the Spurs played a good game, though. The most important thing to manage is turn overs and the Spurs messed up on those. Thats where it ends and begins.

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    As much as ST likes to criticize Tiago, his greatest benefit to the starting 5 isn't offense but defensively. We lost the chance to set a defensive tone from the start of the game and allowed them to get a good offensive rhythm.
    Agreed. Once LeBron got going in transition that was it.

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    Duncan spent half the game establishing position, not sure what people want him to do, tbh..most of the time Miami fronts and the Spurs guards don't understand what to run to get him the ball..
    You'd think a team that moves the ball as well as the Spurs would find a way to beat that fronting. Wish the Spurs had a big who could run the hi-low like Robinson to get Duncan the ball when he was fronted.

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    You unabashed Ginobili apologists/fan boys are a disgrace to real Spurs fans and I'm disgusted by you. If Parker were playing with even close to as little intensity/passion as golden boy, you'd be all over him.

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    Good thoughts except I think you're wrong about Duncan. Its easy around that athleticism for him to look a bit slow but I thought he played well. He did play a big soft early, but he came out much better after Pop yelled at him.
    The problem is that those midgets are fronting Duncan just like they did against Roy Hibbert. At Duncan's age, I don't know if he can fight around that fronting or if he's willing to demand for the ball enough.

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    The Heat just played better. It was a back and fourth game but by the fourth quarter, they were just landing more punches than we were. We need more from players like Manu and Splitter but I honestly don't think we can expect it.

    I'd have to watch again to see if the Heat went into denial mode on the 3's but it seemed like we went away from Green and Neal for too long.

    It's a 2-2 series, which is pretty much exactly where I expected it to be after 4.

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    Wade was just incredible tonight. With Lebron being so great, if he gets one game like this from a member of his big 3, that's enough to win a series because he can win other games.

    Just an absolute clinic by MIA's big 3 and they put the reminder back in people's heads that think for a minute they aren't supremely talented.

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    Miami made the shots they missed in the first 3 games. They took the shots the defense was designed to give. They also forced their way into the paint more and converted (spurs going small did not help). Spurs go some great looks inside and got their swatted an abnormal amount of times. MIA defense was fantastic, but Spurs still wasted plenty of opps. Lot's of terrible turn overs, no real urgency and the big 3 failed.
    Pretty much this. Although going small can't be helped.

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    I do worry this series isn't winnable if Wade is hitting his jumper. The Spurs have just been basically running a gimmick defense and giving Wade any shot he wants. Thankfully I haven't seen Wade consistent with his jumper in years.

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    #1 - you can't put a loss on a single player in the game of BB. It's a team sport.

    Now that we got that out of the way, I think the Spurs never recovered from the weird ref calls when they were up 10. It was a huge mental breakdown. You are supposed to play through that.

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    The Heat just played better. It was a back and fourth game but by the fourth quarter, they were just landing more punches than we were. We need more from players like Manu and Splitter but I honestly don't think we can expect it.

    I'd have to watch again to see if the Heat went into denial mode on the 3's but it seemed like we went away from Green and Neal for too long.



    It's a 2-2 series, which is pretty much exactly where I expected it to be after 4.


    Parker and others just didn't look for them enough. Missed a wide open green many times.

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    Tiago isn't made for this series at all, he can't enforce his will on smaller defenders so there's no point in playing him and TD together if Miami is going small. (As people said earlier, Splitter's best on defense) Dude's been averaging like 8 ppg in the playoffs, don't know what most of you were expecting out of him.

    This game was on Miami's big 3 outplaying the Spurs'.

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    We are bound to get blown out in Miami, role players don't bring it on the road and our big 3 has been sucking major this series.

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    The Spurs passing was ridiculously lazy. Easy for the Heat to get a piece of the ball and then another turnover. Ball movement was lethargic. I know Pop is playing small but if we had a decent big Miami might be forced to deal with that. But holy Splitter, Bonner and even Duncan are soft at the rim.

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    I couldn't figure out why our players kept going for dunks all of a sudden this game. We've been a layup team for like 15 years at this point and it was stupid for our guys passing up the opportunity to make shots unblockable by going glass or draw fouls by trying to go top shelf.

    Also, PUMP FAKE. For the love of all that is holy pump fake around the rim.

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    their big 3= 85 pts
    our big 3= 40 pts

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    no coincedence Splitter plays low minutes and Miamis gets everything in the paint
    he just doesnt have the athleticism/size (weight) to counter Miamis fast rotations
    his passing has been bad but hes getting hacked on his attempts
    Wades first steal was all wrist on Splitter as he rolled

    the obvious thing would be turnovers
    mishandles/flops/bad hands/bad passes led to all of them

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