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all this proves is that Obama is completely inept and out of his league
so much for hope and change IMO
Bush ain't president anymore. Obama is president and that means when something goes wrong in America, he gets the blame. No one put a gun to Obama's head and forced him to be president. He wanted to be president because he wanted the power, fame, control, and legacy.
all this proves is that Obama is completely inept and out of his league
so much for hope and change IMO
I wasn't aware that "We the People" meant Iraqis and Afghans.
There has never been "hope and change". It's been nope and more of the same old with Obama. It would be great for America if citizens would realize that. The man is a joke as president. He was supposed to be the anti-Bush?
Agreed. He's been a huge disappointment.There has never been "hope and change". It's been nope and more of the same old with Obama. It would be great for America if citizens would realize that. The man is a joke as president. He was supposed to be the anti-Bush?
But, then I ask myself what he or ANY president could do to beat back the wealth-sucking terrorism of the MIC, beat back the national security surveillance state, beat back the financial sector into being non-systemic-threatening, etc, etc.
So what do you think that Bishop Gecko would have done better or any President could do better, or at all, than Obama?
You people act like Presidential powers are head's "unitary executive" where the President is unrestrained, autocratic dictator, beyond checks and balances.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 08-22-2013 at 03:15 PM.
Not much because this current Congress is one of the worst in history of America. I don't really think Willard would have done that much better. I voted for bozo Gary Johnson mainly as a protest vote against Obomney. The only reason Willard as president would have been a plus is because he is white and no one would about his skin color. Yes, it's true. When there is a white president in America, people don't about the person's skin color or if the person was born on American soil. That's why I want the the next president to be a middle aged white guy from the Midwest. That way, liberals and neocons can't about the guy's skin color and make his race an issue.
NSA paid millions to cover Prism compliance costs for tech companies
• Top-secret files show first evidence of financial relationship
• Prism companies include Google and Yahoo, says NSA
• Costs were incurred after 2011 Fisa court ruling
The National Security Agency paid millions of dollars to cover the costs of major internet companies involved in the Prism surveillance program after a court ruled that some of the agency's activities were uncons utional, according to top-secret material passed to the Guardian.
The technology companies, which the NSA says includes Google, Yahoo,Microsoft and Facebook, incurred the costs to meet new certification demands in the wake of the ruling from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance (Fisa) court.
The October 2011 judgment, which was declassified on Wednesday by the Obama administration, found that the NSA's inability to separate purely domestic communications from foreign traffic violated the fourth amendment.
While the ruling did not concern the Prism program directly, do ents passed to the Guardian by whistleblower Edward Snowden describe the problems the decision created for the agency and the efforts required to bring operations into compliance. The material provides the first evidence of a financial relationship between the tech companies and theNSA.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...companies-paid
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...fd5_story.htmlObama administration had restrictions on NSA reversed in 2011
The Obama administration secretly won permission from a surveillance court in 2011 to reverse restrictions on the National Security Agency’s use of intercepted phone calls and e-mails, permitting the agency to search deliberately for Americans’ communications in its massive databases, according to interviews with government officials and recently declassified material.
In addition, the court extended the length of time that the NSA is allowed to retain intercepted U.S. communications from five years to six years — and more under special cir stances, according to the do ents, which include a recently released 2011 opinion by U.S. District Judge John D. Bates, then chief judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
What had not been previously acknowledged is that the court in 2008 imposed an explicit ban — at the government’s request — on those kinds of searches, that officials in 2011 got the court to lift the bar and that the search authority has been used.
Lets see what the Obama suckers have to say to this...
Obama is a sneaky mofo. I will give him that. Trying desperately to not appear as Bush's clone but failing miserably.
a spy and this..
Greenwald in the lead-up to the invasion and illegal occupation on a sovereign county...Despite these doubts, concerns, and grounds for ambivalence, I had not abandoned my trust in the Bush administration. Between the president’s performance in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, the swift removal of the Taliban in Afghanistan, and the fact that I wanted the president to succeed, because my loyalty is to my country and he was the leader of my country, I still gave the administration the benefit of the doubt. I believed then that the president was en led to have his national security judgment deferred to, and to the extent that I was able to develop a definitive view, I accepted his judgment that American security really would be enhanced by the invasion of this sovereign country.
Yes, Greenwald is singing a different tune now that he has sided with a wanted spy...anyone surprised?
So, you're saying this is not true? Or are you just using an ad hominem?
a spy and this..
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...ustry-tainted/A leaked excerpt from the agency’s 2013 budget request talks about the NSA working with “US and foreign IT industries to covertly influence and/or overtly leverage their commercial products designs.” The do ent explicitly says: “These design changes make the systems in question exploitable.”
Daniel Castro, a senior analyst with the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation, calls the latest leaks disturbing. “We went through this debate with the Clipper Chip, and it was clear where public opinion stood,” he says, referring to a backdoor technology the NSA wanted to install in all encryption two decades ago.
“If these claims are true, and the NSA introduced backdoors into global security standards, this seems like a clear perversion of democracy,” Castro added. “This just further erodes the compe iveness of U.S. tech companies. In particular, I think this enlarges the scope of companies that will suffer backlash since cryptographic standards are often embedded in hardware.”
Castro wrote a report last month predicting that Snowden’s PRISM revelations could cost the U.S. cloud-computing industry as much as $35 billion over the next three years as companies shied away from U.S. internet service providers, which are said to be providing government access to their servers.
You’ll hear much the same from Dave Jevans, the founder of Marble Security, an enterprise mobile security provider and the former chief executive of IronKey, He says that it “would be extremely bad” for a tech company to give the government a backdoor.
“It may not be the death knell,” he added, referring to Crypto AG, a Swiss encryption companies alleged to have rigged their machines for the NSA in the 1990s. ”They’re still around, but barely.”
if any laws in Congress are passed to restrict NSA/CIA/FBI, (and they probably won't pass), the NSA/CIA/FBI, who can't even keep their own secrets secret (Snowden, and probably 100s of other Snowdens), will simply ignore them.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...fd5_story.htmlThe Obama administration secretly won permission from a surveillance court in 2011 to reverse restrictions on the National Security Agency’s use of intercepted phone calls and e-mails, permitting the agency to search deliberately for Americans’ communications in its massive databases, according to interviews with government officials and recently declassified material.
In addition, the court extended the length of time that the NSA is allowed to retain intercepted U.S. communications from five years to six years — and more under special cir stances, according to the do ents, which include a recently released 2011 opinion by U.S. District Judge John D. Bates, then chief judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
"allowed to retain intercepted U.S. communications from five years to six years"
which apparently delights you
it's hilarious that lying govt goes through all this silly dog-and-pony show about "restricting" the national security state, just ing hilarious.
About as hilarious as you simple-minded s thinking things will get better or that Human-Americans can do anything about making it better, or that they even give flying .
Last edited by boutons_deux; 09-09-2013 at 12:08 PM.
your hatred of people, their ins utions and the possibility of change, shows
straw man
the govt sucks because it's totally under control of the plutocracy, not Human-Americans.
Wake up and smell the pile of dog America The Beautiful has become
And please do tell us how you plan to actualize "the possibility of (govt) change".
NSA Spied on Brazilian Oil-Giant Petrobras
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...y.html?hpid=z4
I've no such plan but even if I did, change will happen. That you think people have no input/influence on that is ridiculous on its face.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...-servers.shtmlFLYING PIG: The NSA Is Running Man In The Middle Attacks Imitating Google's Servers
from the doubtful-that-google-is-happy-about-that dept
Glyn mentioned this in his post yesterday about the NSA leaks showing direct economic espionage, but with so many other important points in that story, it got a little buried. One of the key revelations was about a program called "FLYING PIG" which is the first time I can recall it being clearly stated that the NSA has been running man-in-the-middle attacks on internet services like Google. This slide makes it quite clear that the NSA impersonates Google servers:
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There have been rumors of the NSA and others using those kinds of MITM attacks, but to have it confirmed that they're doing them against the likes of Google, Yahoo and Microsoft is a big deal -- and something I would imagine does not make any of those three companies particularly happy.in some cases GCHQ and the NSA appear to have taken a more aggressive and controversial route—on at least one occasion bypassing the need to approach Google directly by performing a man-in-the-middle attack to impersonate Google security certificates. One do ent published by Fantastico, apparently taken from an NSA presentation that also contains some GCHQ slides, describes “how the attack was done” to apparently snoop on SSL traffic. The do ent illustrates with a diagram how one of the agencies appears to have hacked into a target’s Internet router and covertly redirected targeted Google traffic using a fake security certificate so it could intercept the information in unencrypted format.While some may not be surprised by this, it's yet more confirmation as to how far the NSA is going and how the tech companies aren't always "willing participants" in the NSA's efforts here. Of course, the real question now is how the NSA is impersonating the security certificates to make these attacks work.
Do ents from GCHQ’s “network exploitation” unit show that it operates a program called “FLYING PIG” that was started up in response to an increasing use of SSL encryption by email providers like Yahoo, Google, and Hotmail. The FLYING PIG system appears to allow it to identify information related to use of the anonymity browser Tor (it has the option to query “Tor events”) and also allows spies to collect information about specific SSL encryption certificates.
what's your plan, and that of all the millions of your like minded voters, to "have input/influence", at level where it overcomes the $Bs the corps/1% have to buy politicians, even to finance candidates?
I'm saying that it had been going on for years before Obama,,,I've proven it with links....telcoms, internet providers...cell phone providers...not only where they spying on American communications...they demanded and received compensation from the government for doing it...
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