What could the Spurs get for Nazr?

[ChumpDumper]

I mentioned Hakim Warrick earlier... I know he's a draft pick, but does anyone else think this guy might fit in well with the Spurs? Especially if the Grizzlies are looking at a trade for Nazr?

I think Warrick is the last swingman West would consider trading after losing Swift.

[Kori Ellis]

Marcus Bryant's posts I truly do believe wash good threads off the main board and out of sight to most viewers.

This is something that you keep repeating that I don't get.

Right now (for example), there's only 4 threads started by Marcus Bryant on the first page. We start mulitple threads on possible free agent signings every summer. And certainly during the hour when Marcus Bryant or timvp sit down and start multiple threads, they are all on the first page.

But then people go into the threads and post whether it's possible for the Spurs, good fit or not, what other team may want them, latest news on the player, etc. If it's a "bad thread" then it will easily fall out of the first few pages in just a matter of hours. But if people like you go into the thread and keep saying in essence, "this thread sucks" -- then the thread rises back to the top. So in reality, YOU were washing the "good threads" off the main board. What I'm trying to say is that the forum is basically self-correcting.

I explained to you the first day that the "Free Agent:" posts were here this summer that this is what we do. This forum is for discussion; it's not just about posting news. So, if Spurs fans want to talk about the possibility of trading for stars, complaining about Scola not taking care of his buyout, or look for prospects to fill the 15th spot on the roster, that's what we do here.

I'm glad you like the forum, but your nagging was excessive and misdirected.

Everyone get back to the topic at hand.
Thanks.

[spurschick]

I think Warrick is the last swingman West would consider trading after losing Swift.

If we're going for a trade with Memphis for Nazr, I would definitely want something good in return. I don't see them giving up Battier, although I would definitely take him. I don't have much interest in Humphrey. They picked up two Forwards, Warrick and Roberts, in the draft - maybe they would be willing to part with one. My thoughts are towards someone that Bruce could take under his wing. I think a rookie would be a great sponge.

[ChumpDumper]

Sure, but I think Posey is the most tradeable at this point. Battier is BYC so deals for him get complicated, Warrick fills a void (trades for him would require our taking back more players too) and Miller seems to be very critical for that team's success.

[Marcus Bryant]

I'd want back more than Battier for Nazr. Maybe it's just me, but I think Memphis should be giving up a little bit more in that scenario.

Spurs could rent some of Atlanta's cap space to address the BYC issues. Also, the Spurs have dealt with the Hawks and Grizz before.

[spurschick]

I don't think that Posey would be a bad pickup, but it doesn't address the need for someone to groom at the SF position. Posey has already been in the league for six years. Battier for four. I think both would add to the Spurs, I would just like to see a younger player. However, this might end up being addressed with a Summer League player.

[ChumpDumper]

Remember Viktor Sanikidze will be 20 next year.

[Marcus Bryant]

Here's a crazy idea, 3 way deal between the Spurs, Hawks and Grizz. Grizz end up with Rasho, Spurs end up with Battier or Posey or whatever Memphis small forward plus a pick from the Hawks and the Hawks end up with Scola's rights.

[spurschick]

Here's a crazy idea, 3 way deal between the Spurs, Hawks and Grizz. Grizz end up with Rasho, Spurs end up with Battier or Posey or whatever Memphis small forward plus a pick from the Hawks and the Hawks end up with Scola's rights.

Yahtzee!

[SenorSpur]

At this point, why would anyone entertain trading our best option (excluding Tim) at the 5 spot?

[wildbill2u]

To address the subject in this thread, I think that the Spurs could easily get one of Memphis' SF's for Nazr.

But do you swap a good big man for a good SF even up? Nasr for Battier? With Bigs being at a premium, shouldn't we get something more for Nasr?

[Marcus Bryant]

At this point, why would anyone entertain trading our best option (excluding Tim) at the 5 spot?

Because he only has one year on his deal, he will be too costly for Holt Cat to want to retain and you have two good, not great, guys at that position under contract for the next 3 seasons at rather reasonable prices.

Sure, we virtual GMs would love to sign up Nazr to whatever extension he wants, but knowing how the Spurs like to operate, dealing Nazr and keeping Rasho and Oberto seems like the likely outcome.

[SenorSpur]

No way I'd keep Rasho over Nazr. The kind of aggressiveness that Nazr possesses cannot be learned and Rasho - despite being a better shooter and shot-blocker - doesn't have it. Deal Rasho and keep Mr. Hands of Stone

[Marcus Bryant]

No way I'd keep Rasho over Nazr. The kind of aggressiveness that Nazr possesses cannot be learned and Rasho - despite being a better shooter and shot-blocker - doesn't have it. Deal Rasho and keep Mr. Hands of Stone

What if Oberto proves to be just as good as either of them? Do you deal Rasho and then face the prospect of losing both him and Nazr or do you keep Rasho and his much more affordable deal?

You're right, Nazr's game leaves a lot to be desired, yet he is going to cost much more than the 4 years and $30 mil left on Rasho's deal.

[SenorSpur]

What if Oberto proves to be just as good as either of them? Do you deal Rasho and then face the prospect of losing both him and Nazr or do you keep Rasho and his much more affordable deal?

You're right, Nazr's game leaves a lot to be desired, yet he is going to cost much more than the 4 years and $30 mil left on Rasho's deal.

Good point. I hadn't considered that. I've also not seen anything from Oberto to be able to make a case for or against. The fact is Rasho is 7 ft and Nazr is at least 6'11". Both can man the paint adequately. Can Oberto come in and be a presence and a factor at the NBA 5 level and thereby making on or the other expendable? Maybe Oberto should be playing the summer league?

I'm sure the Spurs would want to see what Nazr can do with a full year under his belt. The only risk in that is allowing some team with mad cap space to throw "crazy money" at him next summer (i.e. Atlanta, LA Clippers, et all).

If they prefer Nazr, and all indications seem to point that way, they'll have to unload Rasho now.

In my mind, I feel Nazr would probably take a bit less to stay here because he likes the structured environment and, of course, he just won a ring.

[Marcus Bryant]

Trust me, I'd prefer Nazr to Rasho.

[Controlled_Chaos]

I don't think the Spurs are going to commit to Nazr/Rasho. They would most like wait till Feb deadline to see who pans out between the two. I wouldn't be surprised if they keep both of them until the end of next season...

[zeleni]

Trust me, I'd prefer Nazr to Rasho.

I trust you. But I trust Rasho much more. And he has given me more to consider than you.

So what has Nazr given? A clear run to a le, that was more or less given to us even in season before ( .4 is still considered as miracle, like Maradona's sacred hand), a great performance for a fresh Spur, but a lousy finals game.

Rasho is a keeper. Trust me. I am, like you, objective.

[Frenchise player]

There isn't many good defensive SF I would trade for Nazr.
Pietrus, Prince are the only ones I can think of.
I am not very high on Battier. He never played well in the playoff and I am worried about his ability to raise the intensity of his game.

But I think the best choice is to wait until the ASG to see which of our three center will start and then think about trading one of them.

[wildbill2u]

Here's a crazy idea, 3 way deal between the Spurs, Hawks and Grizz. Grizz end up with Rasho, Spurs end up with Battier or Posey or whatever Memphis small forward plus a pick from the Hawks and the Hawks end up with Scola's rights.

I'm not sure why the Hawks would be involved here in a three way deal? Why not just make a straight deal with the Hawks for Scola's rights?

[Marcus Bryant]

Because Battier is a BYC player or that some of the other Memphis 3s don't make enough to make a straight up deal between Memphis and SA work.

[spur219]

No make Nazr sign his extension now