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    It doesn't matter that they came up with a bull explanation, you still have to explain why the other floors collapsed at a free fall rate. So even tho the fires on the upper floors were to weaken the trusses, Did it also weaken every truss on that builiding?
    Turns out 20-30 acres of building plus gravity is a pretty good way to bring down the floors below them.

    Go figure

    And nothing in the WTC 1 and 2 collapses happened at freefall speed. Part of WTC 7 fell at freefall speed during part of its collapse, but it didn't fall straight down so there were falling sections with nothing below them

    You would still need the pancake theory to carry the weight of that.
    You're confusing collapse initiation with what happened after. Why wouldn't floors pancake when the upper block falls on top of them? They kept collapsing on the lower floors around the core sections that remained standing for a bit
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    It is explained quite extensively in the NIST report. Rather than waste time asking what will probably be an incessant parade of stupid questions, why not get on an equal footing with me? Why remain at a disadvantage?

    I read the NIST report.

    You didn't.

    You are ignorant of this report.

    I am not.

    Why do you want to remain ignorant of this report?
    you allegedly 'read' the report, yet you cannot explain in a couple of sentences why the 3rd building fell

    I'm going to go ahead and assume even if you read the "report" your intellect is limited in such a way that you cannot summarize what you actually read. I will seek to discuss this with more knowledgeable people, carry on.

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    you allegedly 'read' the report, yet you cannot explain in a couple of sentences why the 3rd building fell

    I'm going to go ahead and assume even if you read the "report" your intellect is limited in such a way that you cannot summarize what you actually read. I will seek to discuss this with more knowledgeable people, carry on.
    If you actually wanted an answer to your question, you would have looked for it yourself and seen that there is a FAQ that might answer several of your questions quickly and easily.

    Thanks for proving my point that you aren't serious about answering your burning 12 year-old questions when told exactly how to answer them in considerable depth.

    I could paste something from the FAQ, but why couldn't you just look it up yourself? It's your question.

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    If you actually wanted an answer to your question, you would have looked for it yourself and seen that there is a FAQ that might answer several of your questions quickly and easily.

    Thanks for proving my point that you aren't serious about answering your burning 12 year-old questions when told exactly how to answer them in considerable depth.

    I could paste something from the FAQ, but why couldn't you just look it up yourself? It's your question.
    wrong. I wanted to know other people's thoughts, theories and conclusions. This is what the forum is about. Otherwise, we'd all be on our own reading reports and papers and never sharing our conclusions.

    Thanks for proving you are intellectually limited to draw your own conclusions and sumarize your readings. As I said, again, I will look for more capable people to answer my questions.

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    wrong. I wanted to know other people's thoughts and theories. This is what the forum is about. Otherwise, we'd all be on our own reading reports and papers.
    My theory is the NIST theory, which is that uncontrolled fire brought down WTC 7.

    You can read all about it in their FAQs and reports and get as in depth as you like. All the information is there just waiting to be read.

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    Why don't you guys just agree to disagree?

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    Why don't you guys just agree to disagree?
    The problem is you guys don't even know enough to disagree with anything.

    You're demanding I answer the most basic questions about 9/11 theories. Why haven't you thought to look them up yourself in the past 12 years?

    Not even once?

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    at Chumpy still trying to put the cart before the horse....

    at the faith-in-bush crowd still thinking they are in the majority on 9/11...

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    it's weird chump is a democuck, but his extreme weakness and love for big government lead him to sometimes take up for the RHINOs. dude should just pick a lane and be a rabid liberal militant like jewtouns_ tbh.

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    That's because Osama bin Laden was killed in 2004. Just another Obomba farce on the public.

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    at Chumpy still trying to put the cart before the horse....

    at the faith-in-bush crowd still thinking they are in the majority on 9/11...
    What do you think really happened on 9/11?

    It's been 12 years. Let's have it.

    it's weird chump is a democuck, but his extreme weakness and love for big government lead him to sometimes take up for the RHINOs. dude should just pick a lane and be a rabid liberal militant like jewtouns_ tbh.
    Oh look, another one who's afraid to say what he thinks.

    That's because Osama bin Laden was killed in 2004. Just another Obomba farce on the public.
    Well, youdid actually say what you think, but it's pretty much the stupidest thing ever posted in the history of SpursTalk.

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    dumper, why can't you just live with the fact that in life people are going to disagree with you?

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    FBI calls half of populace with 9/11 doubts potential terrorists
    The FBI is instructing local police departments and "communities against terrorism" to consider anyone who harbors "conspiracy theories" about 9/11 to be a potential terrorist, in a circular released to local police departments.

    The circular thus adds 9/11 official story skeptics to a growing list of targets described by federal law enforcement to be security threats, such as those who express "libertarian philosophies," "Second Amendment-oriented views," interest in "self-sufficiency," "fears of Big Brother or big government," and "Declarations of Cons utional rights and civil liberties."

    A newly released national poll shows that 48% of Americans either have some doubts about the official account of 9/11, or do not believe it at all.
    The FBI circular en led "Potential Indicators of Terrorist Activities Related to Sleepers" says that people who should be 'considered su ious' of possible involvement in "terrorist activity" include those who hold the "at ude" described as " Conspiracy theories about Westerners."

    The circular continues: "e.g. (sic) the CIA arranged for 9/11 to legitimize the invasion of foreign lands."
    Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/articl...#ixzz2fPvzV7YA

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    dumper, why can't you just live with the fact that in life people are going to disagree with you?
    You can't say exactly what we disagree about.

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    What do you think really happened on 9/11?
    a false-flag event occurred, just the recent Syria incident.

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    a false-flag event occurred, just the recent Syria incident.
    OK, walk us through it.

    Tell us how it all happened.

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    OK, walk us through it.

    Tell us how it all happened.
    That's classified. It will be declassified in 2075 ad.

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    That's classified. It will be declassified in 2075 ad.
    This is why no one takes truthers seriously.

    You aren't serious.

    You don't believe your own conspiracy innuendo. Why should anyone else?

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    This is why no one takes truthers seriously.

    You aren't serious.

    You don't believe your own conspiracy innuendo. Why should anyone else?
    so you think the 9/11 conspiracy has been declassified? You're an idiot. Show it to me!

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    so you think the 9/11 conspiracy has been declassified? You're an idiot. Show it to me!
    I asked you what you think really happened. Not what is classified.

    Tell me how you think the conspiracy as you see it was carried out. You've had 12 years to figure it out.

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    Don't pay too much attention to Chump Dumper. He's a disinfo agent who knows that 9/11 was an inside job as well as the truthers do.

    http://aquariusparadigm.com/2012/09/...mation-poster/
    http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums...pic.php?t=1222
    It's more likely that you are a paid disinformation agent charged with discrediting the truth movement by looking like a lunatic.

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    It's more likely that you are a paid disinformation agent charged with discrediting the truth movement by looking like a lunatic.
    damn he's good.

    i wonder where one would go to apply for a position in the disinfo organization.

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    damn he's good.

    i wonder where one would go to apply for a position in the disinfo organization.
    nsa.gov, fbi.cov, dod.gov, or any PR firm or major corporation PR dept, esp financial org, Fox Repug Propaganda networks, WSJ or any of Mort 's other toilet papers.

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