"Christie is the only GOP candidate"
If Bush's Brain can't marginalize the tea baggers, the tea baggers will not vote for Satan-Hugging Christie, esp since they are too stupid to see that his "moderate" label which is totally false.
however, Christie as Pres would epitomize the USA as larded up with fatass greasebags.
As the web site works out it bugs and more and more people sign on I think you'll see more compe ive rates...right now some private insurance companies are holding out hoping that other providers will take more of the risk from people who are high risk or have diagnosed conditions...if the Dems cannot get Obmacare functioning without increasing everybody's insurance rates
i'm not seeing that.....President Obama has kept us out of two wars now that McCain and Romney would have fought...Iran and Syria...but it's not like those on the left are happy about the domestic spying and his constant support of bankers and corporate americans...And the Dems did destroy themselves in the process of going further and further left..
bull . Dems strident? moving further and further left? They are to the right of Repugs of St Ronnie era.
No b_d...read it more carefully. I was saying that the Dems of the McGovern/McCarthy era destroyed themselves by becoming ever more strident....THEN...NOT NOW. Ever since Clinton and Gore the Dems have looked a bit more centrist. That is why they are looking reasonable as the repugs look more and more far-right fringe.
McGovern, etc were ANTI-WAR, and Repugs painted them as chicken s, traitors, unpatriotic, Love or Leave it, My Country Right or Wrong, but eventually McGovern was "winner" since the chicken- Americans forced to the end to the VN war.
Yes, I realize that they were anti-war. I met and liked McGovern, in fact. I was also anti-war for the Vietnamese war. But none of that changes the fact that the presentation that the Dems made at that time was, in fact, strident. They claimed that anyone who disagreed with them about the war was morally corrupt and out to oppress the wonderful, peace-loving Viet-Cong. The war was wrong...but just as the far right now claims that those who disagree with them about abortion or war trials or (fill-in-the-blank) they are morally deficient, it pisses people off. That was my whole point...not that they were necessarily wrong about their positions, but that they were so strident and morally self-righteous that they turned off the very people they were trying to convince...just like far right is doing today.
Extreme positions may be incidentally correct or erroneous, but extreme positions screamed at the voting public are seldom convincing. People really do get tired of being told that they are morally inferior, and they tend to vote against those who continually tell them that.
Why is it that I am not surprised that it is difficult for you to understand this?
"the presentation that the Dems made at that time was, in fact, strident"
how get attention and protest the war otherwise? 100Ks in the streets, students on strike, finals cancelled, etc, etc. It worked.
That's when fat blue collar workers and police and fireman started sewing American flags on everything, to show they support America's unmitigated, murderous, botched VN war. My Country Right or Wrong. Well, all the flag wavers were wrong, because America was wrong.
^^^^Yes and the slogan of the far right was also 'My country - Love it or Leave it'. Nowadays the far right is threatening secession and the Dems are saying "my Country - Love it or Leave it". Sorry if you fail to see the parallels.
Dems are saying "my Country - Love it or Leave it"
link?
More like "Secession is illegal and treason, you idiot."
Well, actually when I heard some folks proudly saying they had signed the secession pe ions I told them I really wished they would go. I don't know why they are still here. "Just because you can't get a majority of people in your state to leave with you doesn't mean you should stay. Please...can I help you pack?"
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