I just don't want Michael Finley...don't like the guy at all...I'd entertain some other ideas.
Finley is still a good scorer (much better than glenn robinson) and we can get him very cheaply..The guy stays out of trouble and seems to play hard and is still pretty athletic..Those of you who would take the BIG DOG over Finley are crazy!!!!!!! Oh ya forgot to mention those who would rather Devin over Finley, are crazier!!
Seeing the list of the committed salary, I can only imagine what Manu is thinking about those numbers..
.. tony 8.3 M?
.. Nesterovich 6.7 M?
Not to mentions the salary of the others free agents.
Remember guys, if San Antonio win the championship the next season, Manu will demand a trade.
" I don`t leave San Antonio without another championship", it`s what he says in the ALAMODOME PARADE".
So, 2005-2006 ------> Champions --------> Manu leaves San Antonio.-
Think about it.
Why would he leave San Antonio? Even if he got traded to another team, the terms of his contract wouldn't change - he'd still be making the same money.
Manu is probably the most popular person in Argentina. (also popular USA)
Imo he can make way more money by other means besides playing basketball.
(commercials etc etc)
I doubt he is a person who wants a fortune stashed away.
7mil a year is hard to spend if you play basketball 300 days a year. :-)
welcome kamnik,
people forget how players can make money in different way and how a living legend in his country will always find stuff to do after he retires.
You are way out in left field with this one. No way in do the Spurs waive Rasho, with or without the amnesty clause. The amnesty clause would not benifit the Spurs one dime, as it is only a one time benifit for teams CURRENTLY in the luxury tax. This does not include the Spurs. Do you really think the Spurs Management is foolish enough waive Rasho? Consider this move will have the Spurs paying and carrying his full salary over the next several years, while watching this 7 foot player join a top team they have to go through to win les, with no impact on the other teams cap, and get back with me. LOL!
The Spurs currently have $59.3M of payroll with only 10 players signed. The luxury tax threshhold is expected to be around $59-60M and the Spurs still need to fill out their roster. They will definitely be paying luxury tax.The amnesty clause would not benifit the Spurs one dime, as it is only a one time benifit for teams CURRENTLY in the luxury tax.
I don't think they'll waive Rasho either, but a lot of people do (See ESPN.com today)
Waiving Rasho doesn't make a ton of sense -- especially if we end up paying Nazr the same or more. If you waive Rasho and then spend up to the threshold again, it's like they're paying $7-8 million in taxes until Rasho's deal is up. I can't see Holt and co. doing that either.
You're a friggin' dumbass. Manu can't do anything to change the terms of his contract. This isn't the NFL. Are you a Laker troll, Mavs troll, Pistons troll, or just a really clueless Spurs fan?Remember guys, if San Antonio win the championship the next season, Manu will demand a trade.
" I don`t leave San Antonio without another championship", it`s what he says in the ALAMODOME PARADE".
So, 2005-2006 ------> Champions --------> Manu leaves San Antonio.-
Think about it.
Think about it
As usual I am late to the game but I have to put in my 2 cents.
Obviously until the CBA is signed, sealed, and delivered, this is all based on the rumors and details that have made the rounds. If they are true, it does seem to change the landscape of the luxury tax rule and quite possibly mean that Holt and Co. will be more open to exceeding the threshold.
1) All teams recieve full share of escrow tax and some share of luxury tax collections - In years past the bulk went to teams under the tax threshold. This meant that if you went just a hair over the line you not only paid taxes on the amount you went over but you also lost a significant amount of money in lost distributions. (3 million over line, 3 million paid in taxes, 9 million in lost tax refund = 15 million lost for 3 million investment) Now everyone gets their share of the escrow tax and some currently unknown amount of luxury tax regardless of where you fall on the line. No details on if all the money will be spread evenly or if there will be a formula to the distributions.
2) Luxury tax exemptions for minimum contract players - Its rumored that minimum contract players do not count towards your luxury tax number.
I have our current cap # at about $57,875,985. The rumored luxury tax threshold is at about 60-62 million. So we are looking at about 2-4 million left under the luxury cap.
Here is the breakdown I have for calculated for contracts
Tim Duncan $15,845,157.00
Tony Parker $8,380,953.00
Emanuel Ginobili $7,428,938.00
Radoslav Nesterovic $6,720,000.00
Nazr Mohammed $5,500,000.00
Brent Barry $4,691,390.00
Bruce Bowen $3,375,000.00
Robert Horry $2,714,932.00
Fabricio Oberto(MLE) $2,314,815.00
Beno Udrih $904,800.00
Now I base Horry's # off of this article. Then I saw Horry in an interview were he said he took less than the Mavericks offered to stay with the Spurs. Now rather than speculate what that was I just went with the 3yr/9mill. I suppose its possible he took less overall but more in the front end of the contract which would kill my estimate but its what I have to go on.
So right now we have 10 players under contract. We are obligated to have 14. I figure we go with what I hear is still the max which is 15. Lets assume we use the remainder of the MLE (2.3-2.7mill?) on one player the LLE (1.8mill?) on a player and then leaving the final three at verterans minimum (850k?). I will also assume that if they chose to keep Devin Brown it will replace what we would have spent with either the MLE or LLE depending on how much he costs. That would put us at 65mill in cap and 62-62.5mill for tax. Now depending on where the luxury tax mark hits, that would mean the Spurs could be anywhere from about 500K - 2.5mill over the mark making the out of pocket expense, with taxes, anywhere from 65.5-67.5mill. BUT unlike before they would still get a full cut of escrow and some, if not all of their share of luxury tax refund.
Now lets go with the waive Rasho scenario. In this scenario we keep all the other items the same but replace Rasho with a league minimum vet. That would place the cap # at 65.75mill and 55.5mill for tax purposes. No tax owed which means, without looking at what they might be getting back, the difference would be only (easy to say when its not my money) anywhere from almost no difference at all, to about 3million. With odds being a weaker basketball team without Rasho, or something tangible in a trade for Rasho.
Now obviously they could be done going after players of the 1.5-3.0mill caliber and could stock the roster with vet mins and be under either way. I am just trying to show that the hit under the new CBA doesn't look anywhere near as bad as it did under the old CBA and may mean Holt is signing a different tune. Or it could come out on Thursday and be just as bad as before and I wasted all my time http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smidrunk.gif
This is what you call a funny post.
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