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28.6 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 3.9 apg, 2.1 spg, 52.8% TS is pretty MVP worthy as a first option against an elite defense.
Logic failWhat's wrong with the 1-10 and Lakers win?
It's not like the Lakers win a lot with Kobe scoring a lot of points or shoots a lot.
Last year, in the 78 games where Kobe played in, the breakdown of the Lakers record by the points Kobe scored is as follows:
0-4 points - 2-0 (100%)
5-9 points - 0-0 (N/A)
10-14 points - 4-0 (100%)
15-19 points - 7-2 (78%)
20-24 points - 8-5 (62%)
25-30 points - 4-11 (27%)
30-34 points - 12-8 (60%)
35-39 points - 1-6 (14%)
40-44 points - 3-4 (43%)
45-49 points - 1-0 (100%)
He scores in the high 20s on average, using 27 points as a cut off (he averaged 27.3 ppg), The Lakers were 24-11 when Kobe scored 0 to 27 points (69% winning %) vs. 18-25 when Kobe scored 28 or more points (42% winning %). In other words, the Lakers are about the level of a Nuggets or a Clippers when Kobe plays below average, and at the level of the Blazers when Kobe plays his average.
Now look at the number of FGA and the relationship with the Lakers record:
0-4 FGA - 1-0 (100%)
5-9 FGA - 1-0 (100%)
10-14 FGA - 8-2 (80%)
15-19 FGA - 14-9 (61%)
20-24 FGA - 14-14 (50%)
25-29 FGA - 3-8 (27%)
30-34 FGA - 0-3 (0%)
35-40 FGA - 0-0 (N/A)
41-45 FGA - 1-0 (100%)
In other words, the less shots Kobe took, the better the Lakers were. Using his 19.2 FGA as the cut off, the Lakers were 13-2 (87%) when Kobe shot 19 or less shots, and 29-34 (46%) when he shot more than 19 shots. The difference is between a 1996 Bulls team and last year's Blazers.
True leader.
28.6 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 3.9 apg, 2.1 spg, 52.8% TS is pretty MVP worthy as a first option against an elite defense.
MVPau ... is like Bigfoot, the Loch ness monster, chupacabra, the Easter Bunny, the Boogie Man, Tooth Fairy and Santa claus. It only exists in the hearts and minds of the naive or weak minded.
A very good, elite highly skilled big man. Without the mindset to be a MVP of a team that can amount to much ..as a sidekick he was all-world. dude has been mostly trash for over 3 years ...and cant blame it all on Brown. Mike d or Kobe. Because Phil was disgusted his last season with him as well ...
This is absolutely true. One of the best team players we've ever had and could probably fit in anywhere as a part of making most teams great. Honestly doesn't have the mindset or killer instinct to be the clear #1 leader of a champion team but is incredibly valuable with his all around game. I just hope he rounds back into form this year, he's my favorite current Laker and I hate seeing him under-perform.
MVPau - 18.6 ppg, 11.6 rpg, 3.7 apg (how can a big man average as many assists as a guard?), 0.7 spg, and 2.6 blks. Oh, and a TS% of 55.6% despite the fact that TS% favours guards.
Phil was exasperated with Kobe most of their time together too. You point being?
BTW, I agree with you, MVPau has the skills to be the alpha and the mindset of the beta. Kobe has the skillset of the beta and a mindset of an alpha. They are pretty much the perfect pairing.
Nobody respects BS takes like this. Obviously blinded by hatred.
Occasionally Kobe will take ill-advised shots but this is beyond re ed
Last edited by Bynumite; 11-08-2013 at 02:50 PM.
You are the expert at moving goalposts.
I know as a Laker fan you love MVPau, but come on, he does have the mindset of a beta.
Do you even know what skill set means, got?
No, not really. Being that I am not one of the sexual type, I wouldn't know what a sexual skill set is.
I am not really interested in it, nor do I share the same passion on the subject that you do.
Pau with the 2 point goods last night
Don't forget clutch Kobe, belongs in the same group.
But you made nary a ST appearance prior to Pau. He dragged you here kicking and screaming.
Those are some good 2nd option numbers.
MVPau - 18.6 ppg, 11.6 rpg, 3.7 apg (how can a big man average as many assists as a guard?), 0.7 spg, and 2.6 blks. Oh, and a TS% of 55.6% despite the fact that TS% favours guards.
Very similar to prime Tim Duncan like numbers.
21-14-2 on 47% TS in '05 Finals
18-12-4 on 48% TS in '07 Finals
Edit: nevermind, 2010 Pau was better
Duncan is widely ranked higher than Kobe.
Prime Duncan > prime Kobe
Kobe was not in his prime in 2010.
Pau had better numbers than prime Duncan
Therefore, the only conclusion is:
Pau > Kobe in 2010 and was the true leader.
Thanks for finally admitting to this.
That's why fans voted Kobe the player of the decade, and Duncan wasn't even close.
Or when fans made a top 10, Kobe was ahead of Duncan. Or in the most popular top 10 lists, the media ranked Kobe higher than Duncan.
Kobe's numbers are clearly better than Pau's. LOL @ you ignoring a 10 ppg difference. Kobe's statistical plus minus was higher than Pau's too http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9646
Occasionally Kobe will take ill-advised shots but this is beyond re ed
^A lot of Kobe's shots i mentioned above are bail out shots with a few seconds on the shot clock tbh.
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