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    Repugs are planning to go Benghazi on the Iran deal, fabricating outrage, holding hearings, voting on a House bill, etc, etc, including nuking Iran ...

    Republicans Grossly Out Of Touch With The Public On Iran


    http://www.nationalmemo.com/republic...ublic-on-iran/


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    GOP Rep. Uses Self-Described ‘Hyperbole’ To Justify His Iran War Authorization Bill


    A House Republican who introduced a bill this week that seeks to provide authorization for the use of military force against Iran had trouble last week explaining the motives behind the measure and instead had to resort to what he himself described as “hyperbole” in order to justify it.

    Rep. Trent Franks’ (R-AZ) bill, introduced on Tuesday, “provides consent to the necessary and appropriate use of force against legitimate targets in Iran” in order to deter Iran from developing nuclear weapons and degrade Iran’s capabilities to produce nukes (experts say an attack would actually have the opposite effect).

    When asked last week on a conservative radio program to explain his motivations for introducing the measure, Franks said he wanted to “strengthen the United States’ negotiating position” in upcoming talks with Iran (President Obama and members of his administration have already said many times that “all options are on the table”) and then reverted to what he described as “hyperbole” to expound on his reasoning.

    http://thinkprogress.org/security/20...ran-hyperbole/

    Of course, it would be racist, crazy ing AZ.



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    Some advocates of war seem gripped by Thirties Envy, a longing for the clarity of the 1930s, when appeasement failed to slake the dictators’ thirst for territorial expansion. But the incantation “Appeasement!” is not an argument. And the word “appeasement” does not usefully describe a sober decision that war is an imprudent and even ultimately ineffective response to the failure of diplomatic and economic pressures to alter a regime’s choices about policies within its borders.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...y.html?hpid=z2

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    Back in October, in response to the Saudis taking their toys and going home from the UN, I warned, “I worry they disengaged from the UN because they are considering alternative means of pursuing their interests, means that would be loudly condemned in that body.”

    Yesterday, Cheney lackey John Hannah wrote a remarkable screed about Saudi complaints. It starts by warning that Obama’s Iran deal’s “greatest impact is not ensuring that Iran doesn’t get the bomb, but that the Saudis will.” In part to support this, he describes Mr. Tip of the Spear’s close consultations with the Pakistanis (who not only have the bomb but have thousands of our troops held hostage to supply lines through Pakistan).

    Bandar is now clearly the tip of the spear in King Abdullah’s efforts to combat the Iranian threat around the region — not to mention the principal point of contact in the kingdom’s thick relationship with Pakistan’s military and intelligence establishment.

    Then after laying out the Saudi complaints (basically, that the US is not serving as meat in its efforts to extend its hegemony over the region), and after condemning John Kerry with a mix of emasculation and Saudi distrust, Hannah issues the threat Bandar likely suggested he issue:

    An atmosphere this poisonous is dangerous, to say the least. The incentive for the Saudis to engage in all kinds of self-help that Washington would find less than beneficial, even destructive, is significant and rising. Driven into a corner, feeling largely abandoned by their traditional superpower patron, no one should doubt that the Saudis will do what they believe is necessary to ensure their survival. It would be a mistake to underestimate their capacity to deliver some very unpleasant surprises: from the groups they feel compelled to support in their escalating proxy war with Iran, to the price of oil, to their sponsorship (and bankrolling) of a much expanded regional role for Russia and China at America’s expense.

    Ultimately, Hannah is warning that the Saudis will get — and, the suggestion is, with his language about “a very, very high price in blood, treasure, and U.S. interests,” use — the bomb.
    http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/12/04...-of-the-spear/

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    The fear of Jews.

    Unbelievable.

    There is no doubt the lobby is very powerful, but the Semitic phobia is amazing. I say the NRA runs the country, so let's kill all the WASPS. m>s thinks there are Jews hiding under his bed.

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    The International Atomic Energy Agency, or IAEA, confirmed last week that Iran had effectively eliminated that “second stage” of uranium enrichment, as required by the interim deal negotiated between Iran and the United States, United Kingdom, France, Germany, Russia and China. And news reports over the weekend hinted that a second path to the bomb may be blocked as well.
    http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...orking/361066/

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    Negotiations are working:

    When Netanyahu spoke, Iran had roughly 190 kilograms of medium enriched uranium and was making more every week. “That’s why I speak today with such a sense of urgency,” he said, “And why everyone should have a sense of urgency.” He predicted Iran would cross his red line by the summer of 2013.


    It did not. When Hassan Rouhani became president of Iran in June 2013, he stopped expanding Iran’s uranium enrichment capability. The interim deal the U.S. and other nations secured with Iran last November rolled it back, directly addressing Netanyahu’s main fear. Iran agreed not only to stop enriching uranium to 20 percent, but to get rid of all it had made.


    That goal has now been effectively reached. The IAEA report last week confirms that Iran cut its stock of medium enriched uranium by three-quarters. It has completely diluted half its stock down to low enriched uranium, and it has converted half of the remaining amount into reactor fuel, all ahead of schedule. It would be extraordinarily difficult and time-consuming to reverse these processes.


    In short, Netanyahu’s bomb has been drained. His red line has been implemented. Even if Iran were to break the deal today, it would take it many months to make enough uranium for one bomb, and the world would see them doing it. Nor is there any indication that Iran is about to break off negotiations. In fact, the prospect that negotiators can work out a final agreement “now may be better than 50-50,” said David Petraeus, former CIA director and former U.S. Central Command commander, “which is not something we would have said even a few weeks ago, much less months ago.” According to Think Progress, Petraeus said at a talk at Harvard University, “I’m actually starting to believe that an agreement is possible and it could be that it’s possible before this particular six-month deadline expires,” referring to the target of concluding an agreement by July 20.
    same

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    time to get my motha stuffin pistachio and saffron fix

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    Mossad breaks with Netanyahu, cautions US Congress against new sanctions:

    The Israeli intelligence agency Mossad has broken ranks with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, telling U.S. officials and lawmakers that a new Iran sanctions bill in the U.S. Congress would tank the Iran nuclear negotiations.
    http://www.bloombergview.com/article...iran-sanctions

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    Here's the CIA "fixing up the data" to match political objectives (like MI6 did before Iraq invasion for oil)

    CIA-planted ‘evidence’ may force IAEA review of Iran’s alleged nuke arms program

    Doctored blueprints for nuclear weapon components supplied to Iran by the CIA 15 years ago could force the IAEA to review its conclusions on Iran’s atomic program, which was potentially based on misleading intelligence, Bloomberg reports.

    The details of the Central Intelligence Agency operation back in 2000 were made public as part of a judicial hearing into a case involving Jeffrey Sterling, an agentconvicted of leaking classified information on CIA spying against Iran.


    “The goal is to plant this substantial piece of deception information on the Iranian nuclear-weapons program, sending them down blind alleys, wasting their time and money,”
    a May 1997 CIA cable submitted to the court reads.


    The intelligence in question pertains to fake designs of atomic components that were transferred to Iran in February 2000.


    Now it turns out the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) could be forced to reassess their earlier conclusions regarding Iran’s atomic program, the publication quoted two anonymous Western diplomats as saying. Part of the IAEA’s su ions about the alleged Iran's nuclear weapons program relies on information provided by multiple intelligence agencies.


    “This story suggests a possibility that hostile intelligence agencies could decide to plant a ‘smoking gun’ in Iran for the IAEA to find,”
    Peter Jenkins, the UK’s former envoy to the Vienna-based agency told
    Bloomberg. “That looks like a big problem.”


    In the latest quarterly report, the atomic watchdog said that the team of experts is still concerned about Iran’s nuclear intentions, prompting an immediate reaction from Israel.


    “The agency remains concerned about the possible existence in Iran of undisclosed nuclear-related activities involving military-related organizations, including activities related to the development of a nuclear payload for a missile,”
    it reads.

    http://rt.com/news/234271-cia-nuclea...nce-iran-iaea/

    CIA/deep state fabricating a foreign threat, the best CIA "reality" of all, to justify its existence.



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    supposedly there were some leaked cables today that showed that bibi knew before his famous speech holding up his little bomb drawing that iran actually truly was not building a bomb.

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    Saudis Said to Aid Israeli Plan to Bomb Iran

    https://consortiumnews.com/2015/02/2...-to-bomb-iran/



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    I'd applaud another 9/11 if this occurred

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