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    Ginobili Free Throw 2 of 2 (9 PTS) 00:28.2
    [SAS 94-89]
    00:28.2 Team Timeout : Short
    00:28.2 Bosh Subs ution replaced by Miller
    Duncan Subs ution replaced by Diaw 00:28.2
    00:23.9 James 3pt Shot: Missed
    00:22.9 Miller Rebound (Off:1 Def:6)
    00:20.1
    [MIA 92-94]
    James 3pt Shot: Made (30 PTS) Assist: Miller (2 AST)
    Team Timeout : Regular 00:20.1
    Diaw Subs ution replaced by Duncan 00:20.1
    00:19.4 Miller Foul: Personal (5 PF) (2 FTA)
    Leonard Free Throw 1 of 2 Missed 00:19.4
    Team Rebound 00:19.4
    00:19.4 Miller Subs ution replaced by Bosh
    Duncan Subs ution replaced by Diaw 00:19.4
    Leonard Free Throw 2 of 2 (18 PTS) 00:19.4
    [SAS 95-92]
    00:07.9 James 3pt Shot: Missed
    00:06.3 Bosh Rebound (Off:3 Def:8)
    00:05.2
    [MIA 95-95]
    Allen 3pt Shot: Made (5 PTS) Assist: Bosh (2 AST)
    Diaw Subs ution replaced by Duncan 00:05.2
    Parker Fadeaway Jump Shot: Missed 00:00.6
    Team Rebound 00:00.0
    END OF 4TH QUARTER
    Which kept it at Kobe: 5, Donecan: 4. BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

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    I still haven't seen it either since it happened, maybe one day.
    Me either. Why bother, it still plays over and over in my head. I still haven't even watched Manu foul Dirk since that happened. As a Spurs fan it's just pure ing agony thinking about it. Not you can do though but accept that it happened and it's never going to go away. Let it be a lesson to all that the game is played to the final buzzer, not to 28.2.

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    ^^^You fellows are finally emerging from your mass state of shock and are confronting your feelings, acknowledging what had happened and putting it into "words." I'm not a psychologist, but, I'll bet this is normal behavior for what transpired then. 6 months is probably a watershed time line. I won't kick ya's.
    Cub you've been there before. You know the pain. You just like to mess with us poor Spurs fans.

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    Me either. Why bother, it still plays over and over in my head. I still haven't even watched Manu foul Dirk since that happened. As a Spurs fan it's just pure ing agony thinking about it. Not you can do though but accept that it happened and it's never going to go away. Let it be a lesson to all that the game is played to the final buzzer, not to 28.2.
    Cub you've been there before. You know the pain.
    Yep, I hold the losses closer than the rings. Especially '84, but, also '08. We weren't good enough in '84, but, '08 was a waste of an opportunity. That was Kobe's failure. It was his ground & responsibility to stop the bleeding up 21. And unlike Magic in '84 Kobe never had to answer for '08. It just wasn't done that way anymore.

    '09 & '10 numb it though and as you get older the sharp picture becomes distant mixed with all the other pictures of denial and harm.

    For you guys you'd never been denied. Now you have that piece taken from your heart. And you missed the occasion of being tortured by Media over it. That's what made '85 so very special. I cried harder in '85 than I did in '84. I was alone in Lakewood, Ohio, Girl and the boys had went to her mother's house for the day. I just sat there in a state of shock after we'd rung in Boston. I was just drained and the tears came in sheets. It was so ing quiet as I'd turned off the TV, sat in the dark and cried. It was like an out of body experience. I wasn't sure it had happened so I called that telephone number they had back then for sports scores and listened to that.

    What an ordeal.

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    Which kept it at Kobe: 5, Donecan: 4. BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
    Jesus ing christ act like a goddamned officer instead of a child.

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    Yep, I hold the losses closer than the rings. Especially '84, but, also '08. We weren't good enough in '84, but, '08 was a waste of an opportunity. That was Kobe's failure. It was his ground & responsibility to stop the bleeding up 21. And unlike Magic in '84 Kobe never had to answer for '08. It just wasn't done that way anymore.

    '09 & '10 numb it though and as you get older the sharp picture becomes distant mixed with all the other pictures of denial and harm.

    For you guys you'd never been denied. Now you have that piece taken from your heart. And you missed the occasion of being tortured by Media over it. That's what made '85 so very special. I cried harder in '85 than I did in '84. I was alone in Lakewood, Ohio, Girl and the boys had went to her mother's house for the day. I just sat there in a state of shock after we'd rung in Boston. I was just drained and the tears came in sheets. It was so ing quiet as I'd turned off the TV, sat in the dark and cried. It was like an out of body experience. I wasn't sure it had happened so I called that telephone number they had back then for sports scores and listened to that.

    What an ordeal.
    How about in 2004? You were stacked and stats indicate that daddy was the key but Kobe had other ideas. I think that ring was yours. Robert Horry beat the team that beat your immoveable object/unstoppable force.

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    Seeing the pain that Lebron's B2B has caused on Lakers fans almost makes up for the choked championship, tbh.
    Bothers me little, great player potential GOAT ...not a big fan of stdwade I was for a while smart cat will always have one up on Bron ...

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    Bothers me little, great player potential GOAT ...not a big fan of stdwade I was for a while smart cat will always have one up on Bron ...
    Wouldn't be so sure.

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    But like cully said proud of posters who bared their soul ...I can't on 'em because I know that pain from 1984 ... By admitting it you are better men than the cowards that are still deflecting. You hate Kobe, the Lakers but this ain't got to do with THAT... Coming to grips will help until ABC and ESPN run dat replay all June.

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    But like cully said proud of posters who bared their soul ...I can't on 'em because I know that pain from 1984 ... By admitting it you are better men than the cowards that are still deflecting. You hate Kobe, the Lakers but this ain't got to do with THAT... Coming to grips will help until ABC and ESPN run dat replay all June.
    '84 still hurts.

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    I never felt that way. I would have been shocked if the Spurs held on. I saw it at the beginning of the 4th when Manu was being the ball boy for the Heat. I knew when I saw Pop's subs utions like it was a regular season game. I had no doubt, none.
    I won't lie, I thought we could win it but my faith started trailing off in crunch time. It was a weird experience, I had surgery shortly before the FInals, so I was pretty doped up on painkillers throughout the first several games. But I wanted to see this possible finale in as clear a state as possible so I laid off the opiates for 24 hours, dealt with the pain, but after that went down I definitely medicated.

    I was posting in the game thread, but IIRC, I stopped posting right around the beginning of the 4th quarter. The things that started to bother me were what you mentioned. Manu was so ing reckless the entire series, except for game 5 but in game 6 it was like diarrhea that came right back. He played like he was at the park and couldn't wait to get home to take a or get some dinner.

    As for Pop's subs utions, I got the feeling he was playing not to lose, like he figured this would go 7, whether by a Heat surge or the officials hooking them up. That's the only rationale I can think of, because he definitely didn't go for the jugular. So his subs utions and Manu gave me a sinking feeling.

    You think Pop made a rational choice on pulling Duncan? I know that's the way he's done it in the past, but I still can't wrap my brain around that decision.

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    I won't lie, I thought we could win it but my faith started trailing off in crunch time. It was a weird experience, I had surgery shortly before the FInals, so I was pretty doped up on painkillers throughout the first several games. But I wanted to see this possible finale in as clear a state as possible so I laid off the opiates for 24 hours, dealt with the pain, but after that went down I definitely medicated.

    I was posting in the game thread, but IIRC, I stopped posting right around the beginning of the 4th quarter. The things that started to bother me were what you mentioned. Manu was so ing reckless the entire series, except for game 5 but in game 6 it was like diarrhea that came right back. He played like he was at the park and couldn't wait to get home to take a or get some dinner.

    As for Pop's subs utions, I got the feeling he was playing not to lose, like he figured this would go 7, whether by a Heat surge or the officials hooking them up. That's the only rationale I can think of, because he definitely didn't go for the jugular. So his subs utions and Manu gave me a sinking feeling.

    You think Pop made a rational choice on pulling Duncan? I know that's the way he's done it in the past, but I still can't wrap my brain around that decision.
    Many choices seem irrational in hindsight, but the games where he's done that and won (we actually staged a comeback in a game where he did that) support his decision. He's a master, and unlike you and I doesn't get the benefit of hindsight. We would have left Duncan out there (I would have just because Tim deserves to be on the floor, win or lose), but Pop wanted to stop a 3 and he did but they didn't secure the rebound. If Duncan is out there, maybe James doesn't shoot the three because maybe Ray is wide open, or maybe James takes it to the hole and gets fouled. We want to think any other scenario and the Spurs win, but we ignore the fact that the Spurs didn't lose because of that 3. They didn't lose because they lost in OT. They lost because they lost game 7. Emotions be damned, the Heat were facing doom and had every reason to quit in game 6 but they didn't. Spurs weren't facing doom, they could play loose.

    The Spurs best chance was at home. They gave HCA back to Miami. The series shouldn't have gone back to Miami at all. Once it did, I knew it was over. Still, the Spurs had opportunities to win several more times and didn't. Everyone wants to look at that end of regulation shot and it was big, no doubt but it wasn't the end of the series.

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    (this is in response to Killa's last post.)

    ^But, they'll run with indifference...if they run it at all.

    We were made fun of from June to June, '84 to '85. those two games in the interim, where we went there & they'd come to Los Angeles were the lightening rods of the humiliation. CBS was ready with the stick and they'd poke & they'd prod...the old standard:::"lunch pail" Vs "gaudy" Hollywood again & again & again. All that is what Spurs Fan does not receive. Their humiliation is suffered in silence...only they judge themselves. If they were as fortunate as we, Killa, they'd find their salvation in the next June and instead of coming for a thousand stone throwers, they'd just come after one (Dale).

    But, they have no designated enemy...Miami & Media treated them with reverence and a blind eye. For that omission I pity them.

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    ^But, they'll run with indifference...if they run it at all.

    We were made fun of from June to June, '84 to '85. those two games in the interim, where we went there & they'd come to Los Angeles were the lightening rods of the humiliation. CBS was ready with the stick and they'd poke & they'd prod...the old standard:::"lunch pail" Vs "gaudy" Hollywood again & again & again. All that is what Spurs Fan does not receive. Their humiliation is suffered in silence...only they judge themselves. If they were as fortunate as we, Killa, they'd find their salvation in the next June and instead of coming for a thousand stone throwers, they'd just come after one (Dale).

    But, they have no designated enemy...Miami & Media treated them with reverence and a blind eye. For that omission I pity them.
    Well when you decide to bandwagon the best team in the league, or one of them, you've opened yourself up. There were teams much closer but you couldn't argue their greatness with your buddies so you chose a powerhouse to support. I happened to adopt the local team as mine, and they didn't really do for the first 15 years or so. I couldn't sit around debating whether my team or LA was the better franchise, no one argued Robinson over Kareem. Everyone here could have jumped on board for whatever team had the most wins back then, in every sport, and plenty did. I don't have any sympathy for them when it comes to the down years. You made your bed and basked in the glory you didn't earn. Now you want to play the victim card. off.

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    Well when you decide to bandwagon the best team in the league, or one of them, you've opened yourself up. There were teams much closer but you couldn't argue their greatness with your buddies so you chose a powerhouse to support. I happened to adopt the local team as mine, and they didn't really do for the first 15 years or so. I couldn't sit around debating whether my team or LA was the better franchise, no one argued Robinson over Kareem. Everyone here could have jumped on board for whatever team had the most wins back then, in every sport, and plenty did. I don't have any sympathy for them when it comes to the down years. You made your bed and basked in the glory you didn't earn. Now you want to play the victim card. off.

    Hey... why would you think I'd take a job i Israel?

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    Well when you decide to bandwagon the best team in the league, or one of them, you've opened yourself up. There were teams much closer but you couldn't argue their greatness with your buddies so you chose a powerhouse to support. I happened to adopt the local team as mine, and they didn't really do for the first 15 years or so. I couldn't sit around debating whether my team or LA was the better franchise, no one argued Robinson over Kareem. Everyone here could have jumped on board for whatever team had the most wins back then, in every sport, and plenty did. I don't have any sympathy for them when it comes to the down years. You made your bed and basked in the glory you didn't earn. Now you want to play the victim card. off.
    If it helps you to beat me with words, D, beat me. I will not respond in kind. This thread, this day is a trail of tears, six months delayed and denied the confession of our brothers. I will not sully it by rolling around with you in the dirt.

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    You didn't even have use of memory back then. GTFO.

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    Jesus christ, pop.. Duncan would have had that rebound for sure after the initial tip by leonard
    EPIC EPIC EPIC ing choke and it makes me sad to see because Lebron didnt earn it. It would have been the momemt Sauron collapsed like in LOTR for Spurs fans. No more trolling, no more jokes, 5=5, and Tim Duncan surpasses Kobe in fact because of the small market angle and level of talent. I still think Duncan is the GOAT PF but that collapse was too epic.

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    EPIC EPIC EPIC ing choke and it makes me sad to see because Lebron didnt earn it. It would have been the momemt Sauron collapsed like in LOTR for Spurs fans. No more trolling, no more jokes, 5=5, and Tim Duncan surpasses Kobe in fact because of the small market angle and level of talent. I still think Duncan is the GOAT PF but that collapse was too epic.
    It would have been swell to watch Media in the aftermath of a Spurs victory there. They'd already isolated and prepared Bosh for the hanging tree, but, it would have been a fine study to see them in action protecting James, cultivating him for another day. And frankly the Spurs & Pop were the perfect foil in that scenario. Heaping praise on them & him--allowing James to slip out the back door and past where Bosh was stretched out under fine hemp rope from Home Depot. They were fortunate it though, it came off like they wanted. Still didn't stop Media from hammering that story about the Heat cutting loose Bosh in the 72 hours after it was over. Mother ers.

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    Jesus ing christ act like a goddamned officer instead of a child.
    Blasphemy doesn't change the fact that I'm right son. Kobe: 5, Donecan: 4. Neal with it.

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    If it helps you to beat me with words, D, beat me. I will not respond in kind. This thread, this day is a trail of tears, six months delayed and denied the confession of our brothers. I will not sully it by rolling around with you in the dirt.
    Pssst! Thread!! Pass this to DMC:



    Obviously he's on the 6-month rag.

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    Just one more free throw from either Manu or Leonard....

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    I won't lie, I thought we could win it but my faith started trailing off in crunch time. It was a weird experience, I had surgery shortly before the FInals, so I was pretty doped up on painkillers throughout the first several games. But I wanted to see this possible finale in as clear a state as possible so I laid off the opiates for 24 hours, dealt with the pain, but after that went down I definitely medicated.

    I was posting in the game thread, but IIRC, I stopped posting right around the beginning of the 4th quarter. The things that started to bother me were what you mentioned. Manu was so ing reckless the entire series, except for game 5 but in game 6 it was like diarrhea that came right back. He played like he was at the park and couldn't wait to get home to take a or get some dinner.

    As for Pop's subs utions, I got the feeling he was playing not to lose, like he figured this would go 7, whether by a Heat surge or the officials hooking them up. That's the only rationale I can think of, because he definitely didn't go for the jugular. So his subs utions and Manu gave me a sinking feeling.

    You think Pop made a rational choice on pulling Duncan? I know that's the way he's done it in the past, but I still can't wrap my brain around that decision.
    Did you get your tubes tied?

    Was it Midol or Preparation H?

    Just messing with you. Get on AIM dawg!

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    If it helps you to beat me with words, D, beat me. I will not respond in kind. This thread, this day is a trail of tears, six months delayed and denied the confession of our brothers. I will not sully it by rolling around with you in the dirt.
    Blasphemy doesn't change the fact that I'm right son. Kobe: 5, Donecan: 4. Neal with it.
    Hey... why would you think I'd take a job i Israel?
    Pssst! Thread!! Pass this to DMC:



    Obviously he's on the 6-month rag.
    Ride em' in... rawhide!

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