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    Derrick Rose tbh, even more so than Durant.

    -got way overhyped in the draft due to "size and athleticism" for his position, comparing him to a combination of Jason Kidd and Dwyane Wade lol
    -couldn't take his own SATs because he probably can't read
    -NBA rigged the draft so he could play in his hometown of Chicago and write the next championship chapter after Jordan
    -won an MVP award he didn't deserve, as well as affecting LeBron's legacy (the way Karl Malone did Jordan by stealing an MVP from him)
    -Adidas "he's fa-ast" campaign brainwashing kids all over the country
    -wouldn't recruit LeBron or Wade or Bosh because he didn't "need" them to win
    -has only made it out of the first round of the playoffs once, meanwhile his team last season made it out of the first round WITHOUT him
    -in the only post season he got out of the first round, went to the free throw line 34 times in the first two games of round 1 to help "jumpstart" his game
    -didn't want to "tough it out" even though he was medically cleared to play
    -still can't shoot, and now he ain't so "fa-ast" anymore
    -dumped by fiance, in love with a stripper
    -fake thug, gang signs
    -weaker knees than Greg Oden
    -Thibodeau thinks he's a
    Think you're just kicking a guy when he's down. When healthy, the guy was incredible. He was clearly a notch below a guy like Lebron but he had a ton of potential to get beyond Wade level imo.

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    Think you're just kicking a guy when he's down. When healthy, the guy was incredible. He was clearly a notch below a guy like Lebron but he had a ton of potential to get beyond Wade level imo.
    With that atrocious defense, he wasn't getting anywhere near Wade level, imho.

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    No he's not. The only thing he's better at on offense is dunking, KD is literally better in every other aspect on the offensive end.

    People were hyping him too much early in the season, talking MVP when he was hot the first 10-20 games, KD has carried a team without Westbrook to the best record in the West, putting up 10 straight 30 point games (just had a triple double on 12-17 shooting with only 7 FTA).

    George is not consistent enough to be considered a superstar, and Indiana is stacked as , who does KD have on OKC? Alpha is the only other great player on that team, Reggie Jackson improved a lot this year and is playing out of his mind, Ibaka is just above-average, and that's about it. George has the best defensive center in the league and great defenders at every position. Replace KD with PG and Pacers win against the Heat.

    If you watched the 2012 Finals, you'd know that KD was not the problem in that series. The problem was their ty game plan and their ty defense. They played a similar style to Miami, which was their achilles' heel. Harden also disappeared and their lack of perimeter defense killed them. The series however was pretty close other than Game 5, KD won Game 1 for his team with 18 points in the 4th, Game 2 Lebron hacked him on the last shot, Game 4 Westbrook intentionally fouls when there's only 5 seconds on the shot clock (with over 10 seconds left in the game, down 3), which wins the game for Miami.

    At least KD has been to the Finals.
    Pay attention, if you read through the thread I said kd is the better player, and btw that 2012 team was more stacked than this current Indy team. 5 games are 5 games, I don't give a how close they were or what excuses you want to make, But when your best player doesn't commit to defense and gives up the same amount he's scoring then that cancels him out.

    Kd is better than pg but I think in a year or two PG will surpass kd

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    Pay attention, if you read through the thread I said kd is the better player, and btw that 2012 team was more stacked than this current Indy team. 5 games are 5 games, I don't give a how close they were or what excuses you want to make, But when your best player doesn't commit to defense and gives up the same amount he's scoring then that cancels him out.

    Kd is better than pg but I think in a year or two PG will surpass kd
    Lebron averaged 29 7 5 on 51/44/78 shooting in the ECF, George can't guard Lebron better than KD because he's not as big as KD is. As far as scoring goes, Lebron averaged 28.6 on 47/19/82 shooting against KD in the Finals, and OKC wasn't nearly as good on defense as Indy. Cmon son.

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    Think you're just kicking a guy when he's down. When healthy, the guy was incredible. He was clearly a notch below a guy like Lebron but he had a ton of potential to get beyond Wade level imo.
    u remember b4 the comeback he was boasting about gaining a extra 7 inch on his vertical? lmao what happen and didnt do for him

    adidas holding league or team to ransom, cause trading that piece of will hurt their shoe sales after giving him t hat stupid 250m shoe deal...fail

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    Think you're just kicking a guy when he's down. When healthy, the guy was incredible. He was clearly a notch below a guy like Lebron but he had a ton of potential to get beyond Wade level imo.
    Any NBA player that becomes a superstar is obviously already hugely talented. People who criticize Durant don't say he's not a great player. They just say that the bogus extra free throws make him more than he is. Rose was already a very good player. But the league and Adidas wanted to make him the next great superstar of the league before he deserved it, before he earned it. They wanted the next Michael Jordan in Chicago. Rose won that MVP in his third season in the league (he probably should just hand that trophy over to Thibodeau since he's the reason he won it). That's faster than guys like LeBron and Duncan, who had to get to the Finals and win a le before they won theirs. Guys like Shaq, Dirk, Kobe waited 8+ seasons to win an MVP.

    Rose wasn't a manufactured superstar in that he was a scrub transformed into a good player. He was a manufactured superstar because even though he was already a good player, he was made out to be something he wasn't yet. He hadn't proven squat in the league when he won an MVP. His team is a .500 team with him then adds Thibodeau and goes from a mediocre defensive team to the best defense in the league, adds a low post scorer in Boozer to balance the offense, wins 62 games, and all of a sudden the league and Adidas want you to believe that it was all Derrick Rose. That's manufactured. He's faa-aast... Yeah I'm sure it was his speed that made the difference from 41 to 62 wins.

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    Lebron averaged 29 7 5 on 51/44/78 shooting in the ECF, George can't guard Lebron better than KD because he's not as big as KD is. As far as scoring goes, Lebron averaged 28.6 on 47/19/82 shooting against KD in the Finals, and OKC wasn't nearly as good on defense as Indy. Cmon son.
    Great job googling brig.while ur at it Google how much times kd actually guarded bron

    And lol at the fact that u actually think kd defends better
    Last edited by romsey31; 01-26-2014 at 11:36 AM.

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    Great job googling brig.while ur at it Google how much times kd actually guarded bron
    I didn't use google, I just went to B-ref and checked the numbers, there's hardly any difference only that OKC was just a bit more successful at it, since he couldn't shoot worth a lick outside the paint. They used Ibaka on him inside like Indy used Hibbert but it didn't work because Bron was just too fast for anyone. KD was often on him but it got him into foul trouble since refs call a foul on anyone that tries to stop Bron from driving inside for a layup.

    My point is that neither George nor KD can stop Bron from getting his, but at least KD can match Bron on the offensive end, George can't.

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    George can this year and has across the board. PG is the better two way player.of the two (kd and.pg). You are using.playoff numbers from pgs third year in the league. This year they are.not.that far off

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    Idk about manufactured, other than LeBron or KD he'd be the next SF I'd take out of anybody in the league.

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    AchillesHeel doing some work

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    Told y'all

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    Paul George is the truth tbh.
    rofl me

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    Not at first ...

  16. #66
    Ur a fkn wanker Venti Quattro's Avatar
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    How's the backpedal doing?

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    How's the backpedal doing?
    lol losing to the ty Hawks at home

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    George can this year and has across the board. PG is the better two way player.of the two (kd and.pg). You are using.playoff numbers from pgs third year in the league. This year they are.not.that far off

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    Paul George
    not worth a against LeBron
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