But Gay had 23 points, thats godlike level...
It only happens every 1000 years and so much scoring always makes you win games, solid fact!
The point I am making is that you really have no point. You can't draw a conclusion off a guy going off in one game and getting dunked on. If the same thing happens in the next 20 games and Marco's overall numbers reflect these consistent failures then perhaps you'll actually have something worthy to discuss.your point being?
What do his numbers look like since Ginobili went down or since he was playing opposite Ginobili? You're Rudy Gay commet is surreal. Yeah, put up numbers and watch your team lose. Remind me again how many teams Belinelli took to the playoffs? He didn't lead Chicago to the playoffs if that's your aim. When Belinelli was puttng up gaudy numbers earlier in the season, how many of those games did the Spurs actually pull out? You're watching a live version of Rudy Gay in silver and black only the numbers have disappeared.
I'm not sure how much longer you'll be touting his 3pt FG% so it was good to use that while you still can. Props to you on that one.
Last edited by Hoops Czar; 02-02-2014 at 05:38 PM.
The numbers have disappeared but Beli is 10 times cheaper and FO loves that.
So what is your point here? Are you trying to downplay his 3pt% accuracy as meaningless? I suppose your one of those Anderson fanbois that prefers a guy who can put up 30% accuracy from long range.
Sometimes you have guys like Mike Miller or Shane Battier who plays like on any team, then those guys go to miami and gives you good solid playoff performance, I blame Pop and his ty motivational tactics it seems like any player wearing silver and grey sucks.
There's more to basketball than a 3 point shot. He was brought in to be a playmaker. 1 assist in 28 minutes against Sacramento is pathetic. He's not creating for himself nor is he creating for his teammates. His defense is worthless and I just hope someone loses a shoe so posters like you can see it for themselves. Too many one trick pony responses in here about shoeless Mike Miller not that Neal's giving him 5 inches.
Damned straight. Those are horrible arguments, along with, "Duncan would have gotten that rebound," and "Stephen Jackson would not have gone cold in the Finals."
So ... "The numbers have disappeared" comment above referencing Hoops Czar ejection of fecal matter must refer to Marco's recent 4-5 game slump of poor 3pt shooting (3-17). Oh the horror.
So again, you're drawing a conclusion off 1 game. The same thing Raven was doing. Let's just ignore the fact that he logged 2+ assists in the 7 games before that. Smh.
He's had more than 3 assists in just 3 of his last 15 games while logging nearly 30 minutes per game. That's your definition of being a playmaker? 5 assists and 7 TO's in 98 minutes since Ginobili's injury. Is that what you call stepping it up?
there is nothing wrong in Gay going off on belinelli, what is wrong is the movement he does in that exact action, you can't justify a defender going away from the rim when guarding the man with the ball in his hands, leaving him the clean road to the rim. You just can't.
So now we're supppose to be freaking out about a small 2.5 games sample where a role player put up less than stellar numbers?
And for what he's getting paid expecting him to put up Ginobili like numbers is completely absurd. His main role was to provide scoring along with a little ballhandling and playmaking while not completely ting the bed defensively like Neal always did. And so far he's provided that and more.
So Pop reems him out at the next film session? Why freak out over one botched play, it makes no sense. It's not like it was a critical moment of an important game that was lost in the process. The spurs won the friggin' game. Get over it.
Looks like the Pilgrims have Marco lashed to a pole and they are piling wood around his feet.
If a fantasy basketball site gets down on you It's because you are not scoring enough points to keep
you in their line up....It's like fantasy football...cut throat.. Marco would not be guarding Gay if Danny and
Kawhi were in the line up. He was not having any luck that's why Boris had a go. The Spurs switch
off all the time....really they do!
Last edited by Biernutz; 02-03-2014 at 02:40 AM.
Your posts are pretty unbearable to read. During the time Belinelli served as a primary PG and SG for the Chicago Bulls was when both Derrick Rose was out and Kirk Hinrich was out. Which means a large part of the scoring depended partially on both Nate Robinson and Marco Belinelli. Additionally, if you REALLY think a $2 million dollar a year player is brought into a team and expected to be a great awesome playmaker you expect him to be, you need to get your head out of your ass. Belinelli was signed to bring the ball up the court, and to space the floor with his better passing abilities. Your expectations of Marco is a slap in the face to all the PG's across the league if you really expect Belinelli to come to the Spurs and average even Ginobili's numbers for assists.
Hence the reason for this thread, dummies like you should manage your expectations accordingly.
Fair enough.
Other than in a select few match-ups, I doubt Leonard and Green play that many combined minutes and the same goes for Ginobili.
Even if Leonard could guard PG's, this team is so thin at the forward spots, that they generally can't afford to have him do so.
The difference is, until Mills proves otherwise, they don't need to resort to that. They did last season out of necessity.
The New Two combined for 69 minutes despite several blowouts anf the fact that they played two series against big teams with little perimeter scoring. Ginobili averaged 27 with the same caveats. Even still, that's only six extra minutes.
If the forward is the problem in the second unit (like against OKC) Leonard will guard them. If it's the PG, Ginobili will guard the three. Pop's not going to put Mills on Paul just so Leonard can check Dudley.
It's not about need. It's about getting the best players on the floor. It will be one or the other when the rotation tightens unless Pop has no faith in either.
Again, that was due in large part to Ginobili and Neal not being physically right and in the case of Neal, being virtually unplayable the majority of the time.
If Mills proves to be a massive flop and Joseph inevitably proves to once again be in over his head and their backs are up against the wall, then all bets are off. But going in, not a chance they go backup PG less and with eight period. Nor is it necessary, with the way Mills has played thus far.
With the exception of the Thunder (where Leonard will need to play around 40 mpg), in a non small ball series, look for the wing minutes to be distributed as follows: Leonard: 32-36 mpg, Ginobili: 24-28 mpg, Green: 20-24 mpg, Belinelli 12-16 mpg.
The other members of the West's top four each have a star PG that Green will see heavy minutes defending. He's almost certain to see big minutes against Houston as well. I doubt he gets any fewer minutes than last year. He'll probably get more if the team plays Phoenix or Dallas in the first round. Pop's not going to play minus players significant minutes just to change it up, as his treatment of Neal indicated.
Now we don't really disagree. I think Pop will try to go 10 or even 10.5 if he can get away with it, especially early in the post-season. Ayres and Bonner will even see time. But in tight games when Parker needs a rest, either Mills or Beli will come in. He's not rolling with both. That's what I'm saying.
The only scenario is I could see him resorting to one in, is when their backs are up against the wall and he makes all the predictable moves, which include starting Ginobili, upping the big three's minutes and shortening the rotation.
neal >>>>>>>>>>>> beli.................
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