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    They both have their roles in the system. Belli is obviously more gifted offensively, and Green defensively. They will both be crucial in the playoffs, and Danny fits better with the starters. On another team, with another system, Belli could be far and away more effective. Just be happy we have both.


    If only we could fuse them together..

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    If only we could fuse them together..
    I second this. If only we had a goddamn fusion machine. I'd love to combine Marco and Danny, Cojo/Nando, and Patty, perhaps even Ayres/Baynes could be a nice 4th big. , I'd combine Cojo and Duncan. And by that I just mean making Duncan 22

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    Green is a GOOD Defender. Not great. It was GREAT to have him back on the court. We need this team to get back to playing good Defense. Hopefully Leonard comes back rested and healthy. Now if the FO would make a nice trade and propel this team back to the Finals....
    then who are the great defensive sg?

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    Quite honestly, I can't give you a great SG off the top of my head. But this isn't great by default is it? Green is good, we all know that. But there are an awful lot of times when he gets hung up in traffic and his man gets free. Obviously him spazzing out over pump fakes, everyone loves to bring that up here. But I really don't think that is that big of a deal. At least he is trying. Green is a good basketball player, he just doesn't necessarily have a high basketball IQ, and that baffles me tbh. Playing on this team with this staff you would think by now he would have his mind right.

    I'm very happy to have Green, I know he has plenty of flaws. I think he is good Defensively, maybe average Offensively. I just don't think he is great of Defense. I think he is good. Maybe I will have to eat my words. I hope so.

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    Green Belly

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    Quite honestly, I can't give you a great SG off the top of my head. But this isn't great by default is it? Green is good, we all know that. But there are an awful lot of times when he gets hung up in traffic and his man gets free. Obviously him spazzing out over pump fakes, everyone loves to bring that up here. But I really don't think that is that big of a deal. At least he is trying. Green is a good basketball player, he just doesn't necessarily have a high basketball IQ, and that baffles me tbh. Playing on this team with this staff you would think by now he would have his mind right.

    I'm very happy to have Green, I know he has plenty of flaws. I think he is good Defensively, maybe average Offensively. I just don't think he is great of Defense. I think he is good. Maybe I will have to eat my words. I hope so.
    actually i think that makes him great by default.. i do see a lot of mistakes off the screens indeed, joseph is much better at going around them, but that's more nitpicking than anthing, both guard spots are generally very bad at D, so those few that are good should be considered great imho. I'm not comparing them to the great past defenders obviously.

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    i have about 200 bumps to make tbh.. i'd rather just say that:


    hater benefactor
    you were saying?

    Raven

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    I was thinking if it was possible to fuse 2 players into 1, Green Belly would probably be best player in the history of the NBA

    the 1 trick pony is completely worthless on offense. But I have to admit, he is a great tool to have on the defensive end. The Ferrari has everything else shooting, passing, style, swag, panache, etc, etc.

    another thought is that I am beginning to see very good things when both players (pony, ferrari) are on the floor IMO

    a very lethal lineup these days:
    Duncan
    Diaw
    Ferrari
    Green
    MillsIsGod

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    you were saying?

    Raven
    what are you talking about tbh?

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    As a said a while back, Belli's career was saved by Gino. It's not surprising to see the Ferrari looking like a Fiat without his bro out there. Fortunately, Manu will make him look good again soon enough, tbh...
    ...

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    Green is too inconsistent offensively to be better than Belinelli. You can't rely on a 3pt shooter like him when you don't know which version will show up on any given night. When he's hot you put him in over Belinelli because of his excellent defense, otherwise Belinelli is a much better overall player.

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    As a said a while back, Belli's career was saved by Gino. It's not surprising to see the Ferrari looking like a Fiat without his bro out there. Fortunately, Manu will make him look good again soon enough, tbh...
    playing the reverse card

    we all know Ferrari saved Turnobili's career. Dude was on the ropes and looking like a zombie, when the Ferrari came in and taught him how to play TEAM basketball all over again. The Italian Stallion's style made something in Turnobili "click" and at least the Argentine is somewhat usable this season.(somewhat being the operative word)

    btw, The Ferrari sure looked like a Fiat in the Allstar Saturday 3 Point Compe ion


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    so hater is saying belinelli played well yesterday? Man, this dude really doesn't go further than the boxscore.. he was flat out awful, he was an absolute troll.

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    I was thinking if it was possible to fuse 2 players into 1, Green Belly would probably be best player in the history of the NBA

    the 1 trick pony is completely worthless on offense. But I have to admit, he is a great tool to have on the defensive end. The Ferrari has everything else shooting, passing, style, swag, panache, etc, etc.

    another thought is that I am beginning to see very good things when both players (pony, ferrari) are on the floor IMO

    a very lethal lineup these days:
    Duncan
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    Ferrari
    Green (Corvette)
    MillsIsGod
    Fify

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    playing the reverse card
    I mentioned it over a month ago, tbh... this isn't news or "reverse card", whatever that means...

    It's pretty evident that Manu resurrected THAT dude career after getting kicked out of the Bulls, tbh. Marco is brimming with confidence and the reality is that this team has a season and a half to figure out how to stop relying on Gino as the backup playmaker, so all these games help on that aspect.
    People that actually watch the games have noticed the Ferrari looking like a Fiat without his bro out there... as pointed out in this thread by many other posters... this shouldn't be a big deal or news at this point.

    I've always been a big Beli fan. I love he's on our team, and now that his bro is out there helping him reach his full potential, it only spell good news for the Spurs.

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    Green is too inconsistent offensively to be better than Belinelli. You can't rely on a 3pt shooter like him when you don't know which version will show up on any given night. When he's hot you put him in over Belinelli because of his excellent defense, otherwise Belinelli is a much better overall player.
    Lol. Green is so much better than Beli that it's not even funny how people can act like he's not anymore.

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    so hater is saying belinelli played well yesterday? Man, this dude really doesn't go further than the boxscore.. he was flat out awful, he was an absolute troll.
    Yeah, it's to bump this thread after yesterday. Green was significantly better. It would be one thing if this were a Patty/Cory thread.

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    Lol. Green is so much better than Beli that it's not even funny how people can act like he's not anymore.
    You replied a post mentioning the offense. On that aspect Beli is much, much better. Not even close, IMO. Passing, finishing, you name it, Beli does it much better.

    Danny is the much superior defender though.

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    Yeah, it's to bump this thread after yesterday. Green was significantly better. It would be one thing if this were a Patty/Cory thread.
    at least if he was able to see the 20 points in belinelli's boxscore, he should have been able to see the -8 +- and the +14 on green's.. manu's +19 should also have been noticed. Really, the team only played well when belinelli was on the bench, not just that, but belinelli's benchin around 4m to go after a hilarious defensive sequence, was the key to win the game.

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    Green is way too one dimensional. He can't even dribble the damn ball without almost turning it over..... All he does is shoot the 3 ball and defend and when his 3 ball is not falling he is almost useless on offense. Belinelli has many more skills than Green. I'd trust Bellineli in a 4qtr game 7 finals situation much more than I would trust Danny Green to be in the game. It's my opinion.
    Last edited by G-Dawgg; 02-19-2014 at 06:46 PM.

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    You replied a post mentioning the offense. On that aspect Beli is much, much better. Not even close, IMO. Passing, finishing, you name it, Beli does it much better.

    Danny is the much superior defender though.
    I replied to a post saying Beli is better on everything but defense and is thus superior. Like defense is an attribute on the same level as passing or shooting. It's half the game. Also, no. Beli is not better at setting screens or running the offense. He's just better at ball-handling and the aspects that depend on that like finishing and making flashy passes.

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    Green is way too one dimensional. He can't even dribble the damn ball without almost turning it over..... All he does is shoot the 3 ball and defend and when his 3 ball is not falling he is almost useless on offense. Belinelli has many more skills than Green
    tbh this is so re ed i don't feel like answering anymore..

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    Green is way too one dimensional. He can't even dribble the damn ball without almost turning it over..... All he does is shoot the 3 ball and defend and when his 3 ball is not falling he is almost useless on offense. Belinelli has many more skills than Green
    He actually shot an above-average percentage from two last season for a wing. He can't dribble, but he can score in more ways than people realize.

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    tbh this is so re ed i don't feel like answering anymore..
    Good don't answer then.. you have your opinion and I have mine.

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    Beli's contribution last night was great. We were missing our top scorer, so every point was a premium. You also can't peg the +/- entirely on him when you're rolling Ayres out there with him (a malady that happens often enough still).

    We're not going to play Belli or Green 40 mins a game, so anything they can contribute when they're on the floor works.

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