Do want if he loves trolling the Lakers. Even if his only job were just to troll the them it would be so worth it.
He's got some game and he's still growing and improving every year as a player. If it comes down to choosing between him or Thad Young though I think I would go with Young. He seems like something the Spurs need more right now. Tim - Splitter - Diaw and Young would make a very versatile front court that can matchup many ways.
Trying to match salaries probably would cost us Diaw or Green on either one. Don't see it happening. Bonner is not enough alone, and Philly does not have the room or incentive to take on multiple end of bench contracts, and would not want Green.
Bonner and Baynes/De Colo for Turner would be good enough financially. All three for Young and Thompson would also work.
Getting Thaddeus young for the Spurs would be HUGE and can help so much
Thaddeus Young is owed almost $19 million over the next 2 seasons. How could we afford him?
Easily. Taking out of consideration what PHI would want for him, a trade of Bonner/DeColo/Ayres for example would work financially.
Now, is that something that PHI would want? I doubt it. Could they do better, even if there was a pick involved? Probably, but the finances are not the big concern IMO.
It'll work if Philly wants to free cap space for some big free agents next season. However, I doubt it too
If they want to free up cap room next summer, they can just renounce and not extend a QO to Turner.
Hinkie is their GM, and he was an assistant in Houston, so I doubt they do even a break even type deal. Unless there is some third team that has a player that Philly wants, and the third team wants to clear some cap room with our ending deals, I just don't see Turner in SA
The key with Turner's fit is what the Spurs think of Ginobil. It's pretty clear with Manu out, despite the other needs, the Spurs value scoring/play making (hence Pop's comments on Brown and signing him).
If Manu is going to be injured/ineffective, Spurs will need another legit play maker/scorer and in that situation Turner would have the ball in his hands as much as Manu did (which is a lot). If Manu is healthy/effective, then Turner off the ball with less touches makes little sense (unless it's just for end of bench players).
I think everyone should move forward with the expectation that Ginobili won't be a huge contributor in the future due to health concerns. Injuries and age have caught up with him. I wouldn't object if the Spurs decided to add another guy who can create his own shot in a half-court offense.
First of all I feel Spurs biggest need is getting a big..but haven't read any rumors on such. Just SF and PGs..but out of all the rumors Evan Turner makes the most sense and here's why..
Mills
Bonner
1st rd pick
For Evan Turner.
Why it makes sense for Philly?
Turner is expendable due to the fact of them drafting MCW. Who pretty much a clone of Turner and they really don't mesh..due to the fact they both need the ball in their hands and neither is a good shooter. And let's not forget Turner is a FA after this season. Mills obviously has played and thrived with Brett Brown and can play off the ball with MCW due to his shooting while guarding opposing PGs. And he'd be a lot cheaper to resign if that's the route they want to go..Bonner on the other hand is an expiring deal which will give them cap relief to search for better fits. And don't forget the 1st rd pick. Something they'll get instead of losing Turner for nothing in FA.
Why it makes sense for the Spurs?
2 birds with 1 stone. Spurs get a point-forward who can defend 3 positions and also come off the bench to relief Tony and take the pressure off Manu. Turner is a natural point but is 6'7 and can give us another option to run PNR other then Tony/Manu he also could be a perfect 6th man once Manu hangs it up and wouldn't be a bad resigning come this offseason. Not only can he be productive right now in case injuries are still an issue come playoff time. He's a player for the future that can fit the spurs needs once it's time for the Big 3 to go their ways...
My 2 cents
Last edited by coachmac87; 02-11-2014 at 05:09 PM.
I'd love for the trade myself, but you answered your own question... Philly doesn't lose out in releasing Turner into free agency; why would they want to take on the contracts of Mills and Bonner?
They get a 1st rd pick...
Mills and Bonner both are expiring contracts
Bonner getting re-upped this off-season
"Could be", just like God "could be" nonexistent
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Last edited by Bruno; 02-12-2014 at 07:06 PM.
Do you think he actually has his own source or is he just repeating the rumor we already heard?
who knows
Rumors do tend to be circular.
I don't think I'd want the Spurs to even give up a first for Turner.
Mediocre player who needs the ball to be of any use, and even with the ball he's a below average performer. Kawhi never gets the ball without getting the rebound or the steal himself, how on earth would Turner get the ball coming off the bench? And Kawhi still puts up 6 fewer shots per 36 than Turner. Turner doesn't spread the floor worth a darn, shoots like garbage, is a modest rebounder, unremarkable defender (who puts up awful o and d ratings while his teammate Thad does much better), and would be a ball stopper who turns the ball over those occasions he doesn't chuck it. Add in him padding up to try to get paid this summer, I don't see the allure. And from everything I've ever read or heard (from sixers podcasts), he's never been made out to be a braniac. Could he even pick up the system enough to not be a disaster in less than half a season?
All for the privilege of giving him a QO of nearly 9 million for a mediocre back-up (on this team).
Thaddeus Young might be less realistic to acquire, but I would give up a first this year for him. Hasn't played small forward this year, but I bet he'd be fine against smallball 4s. Shoots better from 2 than Turner. , shoots better from three than Turner. Mediocre rebounder, but no worse than Diaw. He's played a few more years than Turner, I trust him to be able to adjust and contribute more than Turner could. They'd be paying him less than a million more than Turner's QO, and wouldn't be in danger of some team coming in and making a stupid offer the Spurs wouldn't match like Turner. He'd be Diaw insurance/leverage. And he could start if that's where the Spurs wanted to go. And has an ETO in the summer of 2015. If he opts out, Spurs can start over. If the Spurs want to clear room, his expiring should be movable, he'll still only be 27.
Not that I think Young is realistic. But I'd rather strike out on getting Young than bunt into a Turner rental.
Oh no, Spurs better keep that 1st rounder this year!
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