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Im alluding to Blair
Gasol was triple teamed by team USA not so long ago... Lol at taking Splitter's offense over the post game of a legendary player like Gasol... Even a tosb Gasol destroys Splitter...
The problem is being a good fit with Duncan and Splitter no long has the edge there so it's moot...
Im alluding to Blair
Gasol a legendary player? are you kidding? even before his prime he was a clunky SOB, Ive seen him playing against Shaq, Garnett, Chandler, Rasheed and he was kissing his asses.
He is decent, before his days as a laker he never went further than the 1rst round, Kobe needed a decent big and Pau scoring was a pain in the ass but it worked, Contrary to popular belief in this site Kobe was the alpha and Pau just a piece like Fisher, they say KOBE IS A RAPIST like that makes every accomplishment on court no longer relevant.
Ok sure... Spain has been dominant when Pau played but it has nothing to do with him... Even Gastrong who is in his prime is far less dominant than prime Pau since he's happy shooting jumpers instead of dominating in the post...
Pau imo is right there with Dirk, only difference is Dirk actually go the credit he deserved unlike Pau tho...
Then why the Grizz sucked so much?
Spain has/had a great team, Navarro, Calderon, Rudy Fernandez, Marc Gasol all those guys play great team ball is not just Pau and they were lame by ducking team USA on the Olympics until the finals to finish 2nd place.
Argentina National team is not just Manu, there are lots of good team players than in the NBA are scrubs like Delfino or Nocioni and they played great for the National Team.
I think they are very different players but Dirk never ran from Dallas not even now and they stink really bad.
People (like you, if you recall) didn't think Green fit in the SL at all. And they always wanted him replaced by a two-guard who can dribble and make plays, even one who can't defend well. They thought this because they underrated Green's impact on both sides. They kept proposing trades for all types of average to below-average SGs and were completely willing to trade Green for an "upgrade". That faction was strong all the way up until they got their wish with Beli.
So here we are with Splitter. People want him replace by average-at-best players like Lopez or Sanders, or by horrible defenders like Boozer or Big Al. They don't understand how much he impacts the team, and they think a replacement-level impact would be good enough. The contract itself is a red herring, since the Spurs' flexibility isn't affected at all by it. It's just a way to justify underrating him. I bet they don't fully appreciate how good Tiago was defensively last night.
By the way, agree on Gasol. He was awesome in his prime. He's a HoFer. I'd take him as the third big now, but not over Splitter really. Tiago/Tim has a chance to work again so long as they can both space the floor a bit.
After the Thunder series I actually wondered if he chocked or if more likely he was just limited by his skillset that didn't leave with any plan B when he decently defended. Turns out he can still be effective that way even tho the end of the Finals was reminiscing of that Thunder series. I did want to trade him and he proved me wrong.
But let's be real Green's contract doesn't prevent us to do anything and he's been way better in the postseason.
He's a negative when playing with Kawhi and Duncan and was the worst player of the Finals (and arguably the WCF the previous year) and got rewarded with 40M for it, I understand his impact just fine both on the court and cap wise... The truth is that the core of your argument came from Duncan incredible year last season in a relatively low sample size with Splitter, you should acknowledge that if he can't fit with Duncan and Kawhi then he's not worth his deal, not even half of it...So here we are with Splitter. People want him replace by average-at-best players like Lopez or Sanders, or by horrible defenders like Boozer or Big Al. They don't understand how much he impacts the team, and they think a replacement-level impact would be good enough. The contract itself is a red herring, since the Spurs' flexibility isn't affected at all by it. It's just a way to justify underrating him. I bet they don't fully appreciate how good Tiago was defensively last night.
This isn't baseball, you don't have a designated hitter rule. Everyone has to play defense.
Nah, $9 Million isn't bad even for a bench big. Look at Gibson's contract. Or Asik's. Elite defensive bigs get paid. And even some non-elite ones like Dalembert do.After the Thunder series I actually wondered if he chocked or if more likely he was just limited by his skillset that didn't leave with any plan B when he decently defended. Turns out he can still be effective that way even tho the end of the Finals was reminiscing of that Thunder series. I did want to trade him and he proved me wrong
But let's be real Green's contract doesn't prevent us to do anything and he's been way better in the postseason.
He's a negative when playing with Kawhi and Duncan and was the worst player of the Finals (and arguably the WCF the previous year) and got rewarded with 40M for it, I understand his impact just fine both on the court and cap wise... The truth is that the core of your argument came from Duncan incredible year last season in a relatively low sample size with Splitter, you should acknowledge that if he can't fit with Duncan and Kawhi then he's not worth his deal, not even half of it...
Anyway, Duncan had a great year last season in large part do to Splitter. It's been really evident this season that Tim needs the Medium Three to be the player we expect him to be consistently. Even if Splitter added no stats, being able to rest Duncan and having someone to take on post bigs and PnR players at the same time is worth the money.
Anyway, I think he is going to be a better fit in the SL with Tim, Kawhi and even Splitter himself showing improvement from range. If Leonard comes back and shows he can hit the three, Pop can scheme around Duncan's decline from mid-range by giving Splitter more PnP attempts. Not to mention Duncan looks a lot better physically on jump shots now than he did in the first month of the season.
Splitter is not much different than the average overpaid big except for his below average production. What were we going to do though, throw the same money at Kirilenko? Splitter's declining annual salary was a shrewd/subtle move that I think will pay us dividends one way or the other.
As far as Bill Simmons and Rose, has there ever been a pairing of two such whiny-voiced announcers? Rose is like listening to fingernails on a chalkboard to me, and not sure I can rate BS any better. At least he has not admitted (that I am aware of) to disliking the Spurs as Rose has. Even if Rose were a huge Spurs fan I'd dislike him though. I can't believe guys like him with ZERO TALENT FOR IT get announcing jobs.
Spurs 2013-2014 WS/48
.188 Patrick Mills
.165 Manu Ginobili
.162 Kawhi Leonard
.160 Tiago Splitter
.159 Tim Duncan
Splitter rates are just fine for the contract.
Playing time is another matter.
WS
4.9 Tim Duncan
4.5 Tony Parker
4.0 Kawhi Leonard
3.9 Patrick Mills
3.8 Marco Belinelli
3.5 Manu Ginobili
3.5 Boris Diaw
2.5 Tiago Splitter
2.3 Danny Green
1.8 Cory Joseph
1.5 Jeff Ayres
1.2 Matt Bonner
0.6 Nando De Colo
0.3 Aron Baynes
0.1 Othyus Jeffers
0.0 Malcolm Thomas
-0.2 Shannon Brown
That's not enough ulative production for the contract.
May a healthy second half improved the situation to a slightly bad contract this season, and not enough evidence to dis it for the entire contract.
I'd disagree with Simmons on the issue that acute problems in a half season of basketball aren't enough to project chronic problems in the future.
Get a clue, homers like you will Always use the defense as a trump card, since it doesnt have a difinitive value, unfortunately at the worst blair is even with tiago, so the salary tiago got was re ed.
So even disregarding one of the most important and basic fundamentals of the game in defense, Tiago scored 15 points with 6 rebounds on his first game back from injury last night. Goddamn it, what more do you want from him?
If Blair were half as good as Tiago, he would have gotten an offer from a team for more than a mil a year. Tiago in the open market would have gotten at least $24 over 4 years and probably more.
And you say D is hard to measure? Spurs D is 8 points better this year while Tiago is on the court as opposed to off vs. Mavs (putrid) D being 1 point better when DeJuan's on the floor.
And for an apples to apples comparison we can look at last season, opposing teams were 6 points worse with Tiago on the floor last year whereas they were 3 points better with DeJuan in the game. 9 points per 100 possessions is kind of a lot ... basically the difference between the Bulls (#2 to Pacers) and the Jazz (worst in the league).
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1/on-off/2013/
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1/on-off/2013/
But I guess those stats don't matter.
At 6 mil a year I would be okay with that. Cut back on manu and don't sign Ayres and that cash could have been put to getting a real backup wing
I'm fine with that. Even seven. I go back and forth as to whether they could have backloaded instead of frontloaded, particularly when the window is now and not three years out.
Exactly which then would have been tough to unload unless he actually was worth it all and of course teams would be lining up to get him.
J. Gomez from the web site Pounding the Rock wrote a story about ESPN's Bill Simmons putdown
on the Spurs Tiago Splitter and R.C.Buford....Gomez is setting the record straight after the hatchet job.
I'm sure the Tiago haters and the Blair lovers will dismiss this story.... well "haters got to hate".
http://www.poundingtherock.com/2014/...tiago-splitter
He got schooled in the comments tbh...
Bill Simmons is a cake eater.
If by schooled you mean supported by the overwhelming majority of the commenters, then yeah..
In general, don't take anything he says seriously. He is a joke.
First, Gómez is a , Who tried to sound smart by using stats and nevet brings up or refutes a counter-claim. Although i may agree that spurs signed, and overpaid, out of Need rather than want, his argument about points per when tiago is on the floor is the dumbest since plus minus. There are many variables unaccounted for in that situation. Sad really.
seems to me his season is on the rebound (save another injury) IMO
DNP - Too soft
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