No more than when Horry's in the game.
I seem to remember Rasho playing some pretty solid games when TD was injured. The shame is that when TD is playing, Rasho goes into his "world's largest shrinking violet" mode. If you could wave a magic wand and make him always play like he does when Tim's out, great ... but since we are in the real world, sayonara, Rash.
Since when was Aggie part of Spurs management?
When the Spurs were trying to max out Kidd that summer, I don't think paying Miller 67 over 7 years is gonna keep them from signing Manu.
Correct.No more than when Horry's in the game.
But you still misunderstood what the post said. So try not to put other people down when you do the same crap.
That was last year, not this season.
You're right, I did misread it. My fault.
Rasho had a lot of solid defensive games for the Spurs, which made a difference. But in the long-term, he just doesn't make sense here now because of Nazr/Oberto (though IMO the Spurs are taking a risk that Nazr will re-sign). The Spurs had a lot of opportunities to trade Rasho in the past and didn't. But now they are obviously willing to do whatever it takes to get his money off the books. It's just like Malik - there's no use to pay a guy upwards of $6M/year who isn't going to get any playing time to warrant that. It doesn't mean that Malik sucks or Rasho sucks. It just means that they weren't/aren't worth paying on this team.
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And why would the Spurs even play Scola at center? That'd be as dumb as playing Mike Wilks at the 2.[/QUOTE]
Precisely, Scola can't play center and due to that they hired a Center. Besides the performance of Horry as PF in the Postseason closed any chance to Scola to play backup PF.
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Due to his buyout the Spurs signed Oberto. Had Scola or his agent taken care of that buyout, he'd be holding up a Spurs jersey, not Oberto.
But it's better this way because now we have Oberto and if the Spurs keep Scola's rights, we might bring him in next summer.
are kidding? I'll break it down for you.Reading is not something everyone here excels at.
when all is said and done this year we will be right on the Lux tax threshold.
Spurs aren't playing luxury tax (not just this year but going forward). Miller's contract is 25 million > Rasho's so going forward. Starting next year even with Nazr coming off the books we are right at Lux tax w/o signing anyone. So connect the dots... if we would be in a bad situation with a much smaller contract we'd be in a much worse situation with a 25 million dollar higher contract.
It takes a little foresight, but when Manu was coming up for contract Spurs brass would be able to look at the chart beyond the next couple years and see where they'd be. This would have effected the negotiations with Tony and Manu -- would we have lost Manu, who knows.
My quip was not at the lux. tax. That's true. My quip was directed towards this:
why the would you want miller? the guy is about as overpaid as Rasho
I say keep Rasho for one more year. If Nazr is not re-signing, Rasho stays, but if he's gone, trade Nesterovic.
I'm re-reading and I still can't figure out how Miller got brought into the whole thing.
Oh well. glad we are simpatico
miller got brought in because we were saying when we signed rasho there where NO OTHER OPTIONS
so someone brought up miller going to sac town
the other center avilable ended up in tpups and SUCKED
Other guys whose numbers went down when facing Big Ben: Shaquille O'Neal, Tim Duncan (at times). But yeah, Nazr obviously sucks because one of the best low post players in the league nicked two points and a board per game off his average.People are way too sold on Nazr. He's good, and he played well in the playoffs. We haven't even seen him for a whole season, and he disappeared in the Finals when he had to face Big Ben (so did Rasho).
TheWriter/Buddy Holly: Do you not see the Spurs trying to pare their payroll down right now? We'd already be over the lux tax right now with Brad Miller in the house. That's not something that was gonna jive with ownership two years ago.
Look, I think it's fairly obvious...
Spurs will wait til' February, see which one of NY's 5 small forwards is playing the best, and then call up Isiah and give him what he wanted last February - Rasho.
I think the Spurs will experiment with Oberto at center to see how he handles that position.
The only thing worse than this Rasho contract, would have been a olawakandi contract!! Remember, that is who the spurs went after initially, freaken Scary!!!!!
When did they go after Olowokandi? They went after Rasho on the first day of free agency.
I completely agree that this is another Malik scenario in terms of shopping Rasho. Here is my question... if they can't deal him this summer, how does that affect the Spurs immediately? Will that keep them from resigning Devin or signing someone else? If it doesn't hurt us to keep him as the season starts, it's a long way til February and I'd be willing to wait and see what else comes up before the trade deadline.
How is 6'10" too short to play C?
I'm getting close to admitting that as well.
I hated it when the Spurs signed Rasho. I thought it was a horrible fit and I saw him as the softest player in the league. I continued to dislike him for about 90% of his time on the Spurs. It wasn't until he went down with his ankle injury did I start to feel sorry for the big guy.
Despite people here calling him a top ten center and a player that could start in the league, I think the opposite is coming clear. Rasho plays like he doesn't care.
His offense is getting worse and worse. His free throws are getting worse and worse. He's not an overly good rebounder, despite being tall with long arms. His defense is pretty good, but let's be honest ... his defense is a byproduct of the Spurs' system. He just rotates and puts his arms up. It isn't exactly rocket science or something any other seven-footer couldn't do.
Worst of all, I don't think he cares. He doesn't play like he cares, at least. He's obviously not willing to put his body on the line as he rarely draws charges and almost never gets to the line. It's amazing he hasn't done more as a Spur, seeing as he's playing next to the best player in the game and for a coach who drove to Slovenia to recruit him.
Rasho is a good guy and and a great teammate, but that's about it. He's a below average NBA player with a bloated contract. He's been put in a perfect situation and blew it. If he would have just stayed on par with his T'Wolves output, he would've been worth his contract. But he's gotten worse and worse and is now just a burden.
Sorry Rasho, but you need to go ... for whatever the Spurs can get.
That's what I'm saying too.How is 6'10" too short to play C?
It doesn't hurt their chances of signing Devin or using the rest of the MLE, etc.
It won't really effect them immediately, unless by some miracle they traded him for a trade exception or a major impact player right now.
I'm losing faith in the possibility of that miracle. It appears that everyone is taking a wait-and-see position. Personally, if we can't get something good for Rasho right now, I'd rather hang on to him til we can.
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