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    We've already established that Tiago is a terrible match up against the Thunder. What else is new?

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    After watching the game, I realized Tiago has the biggest balls in our team. As big as Ayers Rock, literally! It's so huge he can't even ing jump for blocks, rebound, tip ins, dunk with a defender or just a ing simple layup from time to time. ing 8mil for a stupid form whenever he tries to make a hook shot. Softer than Gasoft since he fell down on the floor more frequently than my grandmother.

    Seriously, he's good when he is playing with Manu for those sick pick and rolls. HOWEVER, he is a ing joke in every other category. His D is overrated and his O inside the paint is as bad as Danny Green. He should ing ask Chip to help him learn shoot 3's. Waste of height and $!
    Believe it or not, without Tiago's "overrated" D, the Spurs won't even sniff the Finals.

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    i think tiago was tiago last night. its not his fault tony was over penetrating and giving him the ball when he was smothered by defenders.

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    Here's the bottom line: If Pop thinks Splitter is essential for the Spurs' success in the future, then it is okay with me. Pop is the best in the business. Most Splitter haters on this thread expect him, Parker, Bonner, et al, to walk on water. They can't. They piss, shxt, sleep, etc. just like they do. They are normal human beings.

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    [QUOTE][This is accurate, and i made a couple of notes of this in the game thread. They were also stupid to bring him off the bench in the 2nd. When they have him out there to start, they can establish a slower tempo where Splitter can be an asset against OKC. Instead, they went out there without Splitter and Leonard and OKC predictably went on a run, got the fans involved, and the pace of the game was frantic, then Splitter came in and was completely overwhelmed, compounded by the issues you brought up. /QUOTE]

    Pretty much this. Pop supposedly didn't care for the win. Why the panic for non playoff game.

    Shortsighted spurs fans looking for scapegoat that sat most of the influential second half.

    Tim got overplayed, tony coudln' t hold the ball and Marco struggled to replace manu's impact. All bigger factors.

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    Soft like Qtip cotton. Prototypical spurs big man as of late save for diaw and duncan

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    Physicality isn't a talent, nor is hitting a freaking weight room. Tiago is talented to a degree but all world soft

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    We've already established that Tiago is a terrible match up against the Thunder. What else is new?
    It's odd fans focus on a guys that puts up a few shots and plays as the terrible match-up.

    For me it's on Tony Parker who always struggles against the likes of Westbrook and Reggie Jackson on D . Then plays scared around Ibaka on offense. Its been happening for seasons now . Falls on Pop to figure out the adjustment because Tony still hasn't worked it out.

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    it means nothing to see here, just cliffjumpers doing what they do best - cliffjump
    You're calling me a cliff jumper? Who the are you? ing new age Spurs fans.

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    FYI - I didn't post this after the game and I didn't blame Tiago for the loss. I kept the post to a few sentences because I know some of you are really stupid and I didn't want to confuse you. I apparently failed. I'll work on using pictures next time instead. My bad.

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    The Thunder are just a terrible matchup for the Spurs, by far the worst in the league..there's no other team that even comes close to scaring the Spurs, including Houston..

    Leonard, Green and Mills are the only players that played up to expectations tonight, tbh..
    Pretty much what the 2006-2007 Mavs were tbh.

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    He played bad, but Pop put him in a position he isn't comfortable with. I have no idea why Pop adjusted the lineups for the 3rd quarter, that was just plain stupid and Pop being arrogant again thinking he has more control over the game than he really does. This always happens, Pop does great, then receives countless compliments from the media, and gets arrogant thinking he has more control than the players, and tries too hard with dumb experiments that screws the team over. Happens every year, unfortunately last year it happened at the worst time.

    Regarding Tiago, last night it felt like he had a bad at ude, maybe Pop got in his ear, but half the time it looked like he wasn't even hustling. That was what bothered me most. And my goodness, if he has a great pump fake and gets guys in the air, he at least needs to learn how to draw a foul! That pump fake could get Ibaka in foul trouble quickly but he has no idea how to use it.

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    Great thread. Way to come back and establish yourself as a re

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    It's frustrating to see his layup or dunk shot get blocked so often--3 or 4 times a game-- by all kinds of centers. He must be an easy 'read' when he makes his move. Maybe he needs to learn the 'pump' fake from NASR Mohammed.
    He is too slow and can't jump- classic white man's game. This is why you cannot count on having too many white players in the playoff rotation.

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    I've come to realize that if we are focused on Tiago contributing enough to beat elite teams then the spurs are in trouble. He is soft he ran out of HGH or was on his period last night.

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    After Tiago got blocked, he started playing like a pussy.

    All he had to do was score 10 points and we would have won, but no.

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    tiago is a crucial defensive anchor, you can see him on defense changing shots and clogging the paint. wish he'd get back to the last 2 seasons level offensive production, though. we were seeing 20+ point games way more often back then. when he starts doing those reverse layins and finesse floaters, baby hooks, and plays the open court on the break so well it adds another dimension to the spurs and other teams can't find a solution to stop it.

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    Doing his best to show right now why his contract was a ing mistake. This is exactly what we can expect out of him against good teams in the playoffs.
    FYI - I didn't post this after the game and I didn't blame Tiago for the loss. I kept the post to a few sentences because I know some of you are really stupid and I didn't want to confuse you. I apparently failed. I'll work on using pictures next time instead. My bad.
    1. If you didn't post this after the game when did you post it? Obviously the post was made 1 day ago, so it had to have been either during or after.
    2. If you're not blaming Tiago for the loss, why does it contradict your statements of your original post?
    3. If you're not trying to confuse anybody what point exactly, are you trying to make??? I might need some pictures and diagrams please.

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    You're pretty ing dumb, dude. I'll leave it at that.

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    Then please explain, oh smart one

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    I agree that Tiago needs to grow a pair against okc. He'd really be a matchup nightmare for them if he didn't grow a pussy before each game against them. It's really strange how Blair had so much succes against them.

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    For me it's on Tony Parker who always struggles against the likes of Westbrook and Reggie Jackson on D . Then plays scared around Ibaka on offense. Its been happening for seasons now . Falls on Pop to figure out the adjustment because Tony still hasn't worked it out.
    This will always be a problem with Parker though. It's no coincidence that the two favorites for the championship(Miami and OKC) are both teams that Parker has historically played poorly against. In order to win the championship, it's going to have to be a team effort cause Parker sure as isn't going to lead us to a le.

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    Start Baynes against OKC? Baynes is someone who would take the fight to Perkins. If anything, they get in a fight and both are ejected, and hey, Spurs are much less worse off without Baynes than OKC is without Perkins.

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    He played bad, but Pop put him in a position he isn't comfortable with. I have no idea why Pop adjusted the lineups for the 3rd quarter, that was just plain stupid and Pop being arrogant again thinking he has more control over the game than he really does. This always happens, Pop does great, then receives countless compliments from the media, and gets arrogant thinking he has more control than the players, and tries too hard with dumb experiments that screws the team over. Happens every year, unfortunately last year it happened at the worst time.

    Regarding Tiago, last night it felt like he had a bad at ude, maybe Pop got in his ear, but half the time it looked like he wasn't even hustling. That was what bothered me most. And my goodness, if he has a great pump fake and gets guys in the air, he at least needs to learn how to draw a foul! That pump fake could get Ibaka in foul trouble quickly but he has no idea how to use it.
    While I mostly agree, is it ever on Tiago? Guy seemingly can do no wrong... I can't remember someone getting that kind of treatment while getting the kind of paycheck he's getting...

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