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moore was PAID before 9/11
bushs whole 04 campaign was on 9/11 and halliburton got Billion dollar contracts no questions asked
Another time Dan...I'd rather hear your opinion on the fact that this kid re-enlisted after we were already in Iraq...the fact that the mission he was killed on was one he did not have to go....
What do you think when you hear his mother calling Bush a murderer because her son died? Doesn't that sound just a little bit skewed?
I want your thoughts on the fact that his mom is a poster girl for Michael Moore...and she's screaming about war for profit...
Michael Moore being the individual who has gained more off the 911 tragedies and Iraq war, than just about anyone else I can think of.
No to mention the bank he got off of a bunch of kids dying in a high school tragedy(that one under a Crat administration)
moore was PAID before 9/11
bushs whole 04 campaign was on 9/11 and halliburton got Billion dollar contracts no questions asked
Haliburton has been getting contracts, under every administration, since WWII. In case you don't know this, they specialize in supporting and supplying our military and did so in every major war but 1 in the past century...
Who would have rathered we hire? France?
no other company got to bid
Halliburton quoted their prices out of thin air and they got the job
i didnt know they were pro troop "supporters"
do they get the little ribbons too?
After reading that letter, I agree with you 100%. This woman is off her rocker and using her son's death to elicit sympathy and further her cause. She was probably an embarassment to him while he was alive and I doubt he'd appreciate what she's doing know. And you're right, if he had ever said anything against the war in a letter or email, she absolutely would be publicizing that now. He obviously didn't. She doesn't even stay on the topic of war, she starts spewing crap about Bush stealing elections. She's a political extremist who is exploiting her son's death. My sympathy for her has all but evaporated.
And Bush lied and got us into Iraq and he deserves to be spat on.
Interesting that only the mother is speaking out. What is the father's position?
She has already met with the President once before, but it sounds like she has regrets about not confronting him when she had the chance.
Here is the article, linked on her website.
The website included photos of the Sheehan family with President Bush, but they have sense been removed.Sheehans meet President Bush
By David Henson/Staff Writer
Thursday, June 24, 2004 - Since learning in April that their son, Army Spc. Casey Sheehan, had been killed in Iraq, life has been everything but normal for the Sheehan family of Vacaville.
Casey's parents, Cindy and Patrick, as well as their three children, have attended event after event honoring the soldier both locally and abroad, received countless letters of support and fielded questions from reporters across the country.
"That's the way our whole lives have been since April 4," Patrick said. "It's been surreal."
But none of that prepared the family for the message left on their answering machine last week, inviting them to have a face-to-face meeting with President George W. Bush at Fort Lewis near Seattle.
Surreal soon seemed like an understatement, as the Sheehans - one of 17 families who met Thursday with Bush - were whisked in a matter of days to the Army post and given the VIP treatment from the military. But as their meeting with the president approached, the family was faced with a dilemma as to what to say when faced with Casey's commander-in-chief.
"We haven't been happy with the way the war has been handled," Cindy said. "The president has changed his reasons for being over there every time a reason is proven false or an objective reached."
The 10 minutes of face time with the president could have given the family a chance to vent their frustrations or ask Bush some of the difficult questions they have been asking themselves, such as whether Casey's sacrifice would make the world a safer place.
But in the end, the family decided against such talk, deferring to how they believed Casey would have wanted them to act. In addition, Pat noted that Bush wasn't stumping for votes or trying to gain a political edge for the upcoming election.
"We have a lot of respect for the office of the president, and I have a new respect for him because he was sincere and he didn't have to take the time to meet with us," Pat said.
Sincerity was something Cindy had hoped to find in the meeting. Shortly after Casey died, Bush sent the family a form letter expressing his condolences, and Cindy said she felt it was an impersonal gesture.
"I now know he's sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis," Cindy said after their meeting. "I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith."
The meeting didn't last long, but in their time with Bush, Cindy spoke about Casey and asked the president to make her son's sacrifice count for something. They also spoke of their faith.
While meeting with Bush, as well as Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, was an honor, it was almost a tangent benefit of the trip. The Sheehans said they enjoyed meeting the other families of fallen soldiers, sharing stories, contact information, grief and support.
For some, grief was still visceral and raw, while for others it had melted into the background of their lives, the pain as common as breathing. Cindy said she saw her reflection in the troubled eyes of each.
"It's hard to lose a son," she said. "But we (all) lost a son in the Iraqi war."
The trip had one benefit that none of the Sheehans expected.
For a moment, life returned to the way it was before Casey died. They laughed, joked and bickered playfully as they briefly toured Seattle.
For the first time in 11 weeks, they felt whole again.
"That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together," Cindy said.
http://www.angelfire.com/sk3/spkhntrca/cphpgbu.html
So you mean this woman actually has met W....and 4 months later he was a corrupt murderous tyrant? And now she wants another meeting?
How about we just make her Commander in Chief...that seems to be what she would approve of.
And pulling out of Iraq after doing a halfassed job....which means her son died for absolutely nothing.
Last edited by whottt; 08-08-2005 at 01:44 PM.
The right-wing attack machine has gone to work against yet another war mom. Is anybody really surprised?
More:RawstoryThe Vacaville, California Reporter told of how Sheehan was invited to meet with Bush and given "VIP treatment" from the military. But even when the article was published, it's clear that Sheehan and her husband had serious questions about Bush -- and were not adulatory as the article by Drudge suggests.
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"We haven't been happy with the way the war has been handled," Cindy said. "The president has changed his reasons for being over there every time a reason is proven false or an objective reached."
"...But in the end, the family decided against such talk, deferring to how they believed Casey would have wanted them to act.
"...We have a lot of respect for the office of the president, and I have a new respect for him because he was sincere and he didn't have to take the time to meet with us," Pat said.
An article by Matt Drudge quoting anti-war mother Cindy Sheehan whose son was killed in Iraq grossly took Sheehan out of context, RAW STORY has learned. Sounds to me like Sheehan was already having regrets then about not confronting W with her reservations about the war. The right-wingers are making it sound like Cindy had a change of heart overnight.
Um...Dan...you do realize that article talking about how honored they were to meet the President...is posted on her own website?
Right wing propaganda indeed.
I guess it was right wing propaganda that lead her to remove the pictures of her and her family taken with the President as well....
Yeah, there is no conspiracy to get back at Sheehan
Here is the way Matt Drudge is playing the Sheehan letter:
Drudge ReportPROTESTING SOLDIER MOM CHANGED STORY ON BUSH
Mon Aug 08 2005 10:11:07 ET
The mother of a fallen U.S. soldier who is holding a roadside peace vigil near President Bush's ranch -- has dramatically changed her account about what happened when she met the commander-in-chief last summer!
Cindy Sheehan, 48, of Vacaville, Calif., who last year praised Bush for bringing her family the "gift of happiness," took to the nation's TV outlets this weekend to declare how Bush "killed an indispensable part of our family and humanity."
CINDY 2004
THE REPORTER of Vacaville, CA published an account of Cindy Sheehan's visit with the president at Fort Lewis near Seattle on June 24, 2004:
"'I now know he's sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis,' Cindy said after their meeting. 'I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith.'
"The meeting didn't last long, but in their time with Bush, Cindy spoke about Casey and asked the president to make her son's sacrifice count for something. They also spoke of their faith.
"The trip had one benefit that none of the Sheehans expected.
"For a moment, life returned to the way it was before Casey died. They laughed, joked and bickered playfully as they briefly toured Seattle.
For the first time in 11 weeks, they felt whole again.
"'That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together,' Cindy said."
CINDY 2005
Sheehan's current comments are a striking departure.
She vowed on Sunday to continue her protest until she can personally ask Bush: "Why did you kill my son?"
In an interview on CNN, she claimed Bush "acted like it was party" when she met him last year.
"It was -- you know, there was a lot of things said. We wanted to use the time for him to know that he killed an indispensable part of our family and humanity. And we wanted him to look at the pictures of Casey.
"He wouldn't look at the pictures of Casey. He didn't even know Casey's name. He came in the room and the very first thing he said is, 'So who are we honoring here?' He didn't even know Casey's name. He didn't want to hear it. He didn't want to hear anything about Casey. He wouldn't even call him 'him' or 'he.' He called him 'your loved one.'
Every time we tried to talk about Casey and how much we missed him, he would change the subject. And he acted like it was a party.
You guys need to take your blinders off.
Um, yes it is... I just posted it.
http://www.angelfire.com/sk3/spkhntrca/bushart.html
Neither Drudge nor RawStory bothered to link it, choosing only to post out-of-context snippits.
Guess I scooped them both. All I had to do was look on her web page.
*ARTICLES*
*NEW*Fort Hood Knights of Columbus chapter dedicated in Casey's name
*NEW* Flag draped coffins return from Iraq
*"Sheehans meet with President Bush" Vacaville Reporter
*Family voices frustration"Vacaville Reporter 8/07/04
It's all about context.
The angelfire article looks like it was put up overnight. Probably by an authorized source. So I don't blame RAWSTORY for not knowing about your link, but clearly Matt Drudge is spinning the Sheehan visit.
Dan please, in the name of sanity...
Clink on this link and read what is posted there. Read it very carefully.
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The angelfire article looks like it was put up overnight. Probably by an authorized source. So I don't blame RAWSTORY for not knowing about your link, but clearly Matt Drudge is spinning the Sheehan visit.
Okay, whatever. I'm sure Karl Rove hacked her personal web page.
They're both spinning it. Period.
Sheehan is the new Terri Schiavo.
Looks like Dan got out of this one while the getting is good.
Have you read it carefully? Now go read snippits as it is presented by Drudge
Sounds to me like she had doubts."We haven't been happy with the way the war has been handled," Cindy said. "The president has changed his reasons for being over there every time a reason is proven false or an objective reached."
Looks like your spinning it Sperminator.
Okay, whatever. I'm sure Karl Rove hacked her personal web page.
They're both spinning it. Period.
Sheehan is the new Terri Schiavo.
How am I spinning it?
Like I said when I posted it, it looks like she regrets not confronting the President when she had the chance.
That's really all there is to it... Not much of a story, it's just funny seeing the version posted by mouthpieces on each side.
Very interesting indeed, but I still don't see why W doesn't just drag his arse down the trail and meet with Ms.Sheehan and her supporters for a few minutes.
YEAH i know
hes on vacation he cant go outside and talk
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