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    D'antoni would run his starters to the ground and the defense would be . At least most of the Dubs (Outside of David Lee) actually try to play defense, under D'antoni it would be a ing layup line.
    Yeah but they cannot play a lick of defense anyhow, so get Curry open looks in transition and at least make the game fun. Who wants to see that water headed er Bogut out there swatting the ball around and that fake ass half court set?

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    lol I love how Jackson brought religion into the locker room in the form of cheating on his wife with a stripper.

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    Yeah but they cannot play a lick of defense anyhow
    They're actually a good defensive team, tbh, it's just Curry and Lee that don't play any defense.... the Warriors' defense is why our series went 7, tbh....

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    They're actually a good defensive team, tbh, it's just Curry and Lee that don't play any defense.... the Warriors' defense is why our series went 7, tbh....
    So their two best players don't play defense but they are a good defensive team. They allowed 126 points in regulation in a closeout game and they are a good defensive team. They allowed an average of over 110pts a game in the playoffs and they are a good defensive team. I guess I must not understand how defense is measured.

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    So their two best players don't play defense but they are a good defensive team. They allowed 126 points in regulation in a closeout game and they are a good defensive team. They allowed an average of over 110pts a game in the playoffs and they are a good defensive team. I guess I must not understand how defense is measured.
    Look at their numbers with Bogut/Iggy healthy and playing.

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    But bottom line, Jackson seemingly rubbed people the wrong way with his fake "religious" shtick. Not only did he clash with the people who gave him a shot a coaching, they put a really stacked team in front of him and he couldn't get anything of note done. Then he continued to clash with management and staff even after they stood by him during the adultery scandal.

    Fired.

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    lol I love how Jackson brought religion into the locker room in the form of cheating on his wife with a stripper.
    That's the most pure form of Southern Baptist religion there is.

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    So their two best players don't play defense but they are a good defensive team. They allowed 126 points in regulation in a closeout game and they are a good defensive team. They allowed an average of over 110pts a game in the playoffs and they are a good defensive team. I guess I must not understand how defense is measured.
    Thinking Avi Lee is one of the Warriors' two best players

    GSW has had one of the best two-year improvements in defensive rating in NBA history, they allowed 4.4 fewer points than the NBA average per 100 possessions (third-best in the league), they are one of the best teams at forcing opponents to shoot midrange shots and one of the best at denying them corner threes....

    In our matchup, Klay was able to pressure CP3 effectively, denying him angles and space, and Green did a good job defending Blake until Game 7.... their smaller defenders' rotations were crisp and they were able to recover quickly.... they were able to force us into playing isoball for long stretches instead of moving the ball....

    We still got ours, but that's simply because the Clippers' offense is the best in the NBA, they're not going to get totally shut down very often.... the difference between the Warriors' defense and other teams' was on display last night, though, as the Clippers moved the ball and torched MethKC from deep repeatedly in ways that they could not consistently do against the Warriors' defense....

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    Look at their numbers with Bogut/Iggy healthy and playing.
    You mean like a total of what, 40% of the season? They have a hybrid system with a big in Bogut who totally clashes with the rapid fire style of Thompson and Curry, and AI seems like a clean up man. Lee seems to fit that system, doesn't play defense, so they could use him in the middle like a really really poor man's Amare (or a white Kevin Love). In fact, they could trade Bogut and AI for Kevin Love and have absolutely no defense whatsoever. That would make them the most exciting team in the league.

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    Thinking Avi Lee is one of the Warriors' two best players

    GSW has had one of the best two-year improvements in defensive rating in NBA history, they allowed 4.4 fewer points than the NBA average per 100 possessions (third-best in the league), they are one of the best teams at forcing opponents to shoot midrange shots and one of the best at denying them corner threes....

    In our matchup, Klay was able to pressure CP3 effectively, denying him angles and space, and Green did a good job defending Blake until Game 7.... their smaller defenders' rotations were crisp and they were able to recover quickly.... they were able to force us into playing isoball for long stretches instead of moving the ball....

    We still got ours, but that's simply because the Clippers' offense is the best in the NBA, they're not going to get totally shut down very often.... the difference between the Warriors' defense and other teams' was on display last night, though, as the Clippers moved the ball and torched MethKC from deep repeatedly in ways that they could not consistently do against the Warriors' defense....
    Name the Warrior's two best players, and if you name Thompson I'm going to file your name under the re ed take section.

    And if you mean that Chris Paul couldn't shoot 8 for 9 from 3 before... you're right. He never did that in his entire life and sure, that was the Clippers overwhelming offense and that monster 39% 3pt ability of CP3 who often strays away from the 3.

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    Well, injuries aside, when they were healthy they were a very solid defensive team and still maintained a good offense. I'm not saying Jackson is a good coach - was just letting you know what the numbers said.

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    Name the Warrior's two best players, and if you name Thompson I'm going to file your name under the re ed take section.
    I would easily take Iguodala or a healthy Bogut over Avi Lee, tbh.... neither of those players are anything special, either, Lee is just trash....

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    Well, injuries aside, when they were healthy they were a very solid defensive team and still maintained a good offense. I'm not saying Jackson is a good coach - was just letting you know what the numbers said.
    You'd think they'd want to make Curry into a more true PG, but I bet they're thinking of making him more of their franchise guy and that means an offense that is more conducive to him getting easy looks at the cost of defense. He's best when he's shooting off the dribble without thinking about it (which is why he the bed in the 3pt contest, I think).

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    I would easily take Iguodala or a healthy Bogut over Avi Lee, tbh.... neither of those players are anything special, either, Lee is just trash....
    Lee averaged over 18pts and almost 10rbs a game. That's hardly trash.

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    Lee averaged over 18pts and almost 10rbs a game. That's hardly trash.

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    Lee averaged over 18pts and almost 10rbs a game. That's hardly trash.
    Lee is statistically one of the biggest net loss players for a big name in the league.

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    Hopefully they can get a white coach now.

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    I don't recall Larry Sanders being with Golden State.

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    I don't recall Larry Sanders being with Golden State.

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    Lee is statistically one of the biggest net loss players for a big name in the league.
    So his PER being higher than Parker, Bosh, Lillard etc doesn't factor into the "net loss" aspect?

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    I said best two players on GS and you show me Lee compared with a guy who's not on GS.

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    I said best two players on GS and you show me Lee compared with a guy who's not on GS.
    The point of the diagram is that Lee is arguably the worst interior defender in the league, and it compares him to both the league average and a well above-average interior defender in Sanders just to show how bad Lee is.... luckily for him, the majority of his teammates play good enough defense to hide his deficiencies....

    You, of course, knew this, but you're Philo-ing

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    So his PER being higher than Parker, Bosh, Lillard etc doesn't factor into the "net loss" aspect?
    No, it doesn't. Since PER is an offensive based metric that can't properly rate defensive ability...

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    The point of the diagram is that Lee is arguably the worst interior defender in the league, and it compares him to both the league average and a well above-average interior defender in Sanders just to show how bad Lee is....

    You, of course, knew this, but you're Philo-ing
    No, I said Curry and Lee were the best players on GS. I didn't say Lee was a good defender. In the SSOL he wouldn't need to be. Maybe that little aspect of my argument escaped you in your fervor to nay say the greatness that I am on here.

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    No, it doesn't. Since PER is an offensive based metric that can't properly rate defensive ability...
    So his +/- numbers then should be in the negative, correct?

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