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    I totally agree with you! It's a win-win stuation for both teams. Besides, has anyone seen the list of free agents next year?? There will be a TON of good players available next year. The Spurs should be totally in the running for some excellent players if we get rid of Rasho for any expiring contracts.
    The spurs won't be under the cap, even if we get expiring contracts next year. And if we are it will be by less than the MLE anyways, so we will still be screwed on the FA list. And you would be assuming that they wouldn't resign Nazr. So we would be left with our three front court players of Oberto, Duncan, and Horry. I am not impressed.

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    At best Chicago will not take on a salary the size of Rasho's until late next summer when they have used thier cap space to the best of their ability. They won't give up 6-7 million in flexibility for a player like Rasho.

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    I totally agree with you! It's a win-win stuation for both teams. Besides, has anyone seen the list of free agents next year?? There will be a TON of good players available next year. The Spurs should be totally in the running for some excellent players if we get rid of Rasho for any expiring contracts.
    Yeah, the trade wouldn't help for the off-season but it would surely save a lot of bucks and then we could re-sign Mohammed without going over the luxury cap.

    Besides by this trade we would get the backup point guard we need and a good shooter. The big mans will come alone with time. For now Oberto, Mohammed, Duncan and Horry is more than enough for taking all the minutes.

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    Pargo?
    are yall ting me
    he ing blows
    jason hart was better by far

    some of yall would want to sign latrell, NVE, eduardo najera, dale davis and janero pargo
    and dont say he's good because he's not
    we're set at pg
    spurs have other issues to address

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    I agree that this should be your last thread that you start on this subject.

    There are about 1000 threads about Rasho. All of your ideas on how to get rid of him can be posted in the same thread. Please stop starting a new thread for your every thought.

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    At best Chicago will not take on a salary the size of Rasho's until late next summer when they have used thier cap space to the best of their ability. They won't give up 6-7 million in flexibility for a player like Rasho.
    Even if they sign Nesterovic and re-sign Curry and Chandler for a total of 15,000,000 they will still have like 14 millons for next season.
    I said 15,000,000 as maximum although it is really unlikely so they should have more.

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    I agree that this should be your last thread that you start on this subject.

    There are about 1000 threads about Rasho. All of your ideas on how to get rid of him can be posted in the same thread. Please stop starting a new thread for your every thought.
    I noticed that. Everyone of his threads is based on how to get rid of Rasho.

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    I noticed that. Everyone of his threads is based on how to get rid of Rasho.
    Not all, although i did mention Rasho in some. Don't get me wrong. I like Nesterovic as a player but i don't think he fit in the Spurs finances.

    The thing i admire most about the spurs is how they get great and underrated players for cheap salaries but frankly, Nesterovic is like taken from the New York Knicks book. Well, maybe not so much but his contract is ugly and more if we compare it to the rest of the Spurs. Manu just win 1 millon more per year.

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    The Spurs obviously decided that keeping Radosoft and forgoing some of the luxury tax distributions was worth keeping him from joining a contender for nothing.

    I think one of the reasons the Spurs couldn't get anything for Radosoft before the deadline was that other teams believed the Spurs would waive him under the amnesty clause.

    Anyways, the Spurs retain some bigman depth and also, they avoid seeing him join a rival for nothing while they pay his salary.

    I've been one of Rasho's toughest critics in this forum but he isn't that bad. His skilled play does make up for his lack of physicality in the paint. Sooner or later another team will find themselves in need of a center and Rasho will look rather attractive. If not, the Spurs will have a decent piece in the bigman rotation.

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    The Spurs obviously decided that keeping Radosoft and forgoing some of the luxury tax distributions was worth keeping him from joining a contender for nothing.

    I think one of the reasons the Spurs couldn't get anything for Radosoft before the deadline was that other teams believed the Spurs would waive him under the amnesty clause.

    Anyways, the Spurs retain some bigman depth and also, they avoid seeing him join a rival for nothing while they pay his salary.

    I've been one of Rasho's toughest critics in this forum but he isn't that bad. His skilled play does make up for his lack of physicality in the paint. Sooner or later another team will find themselves in need of a center and Rasho will look rather attractive. If not, the Spurs will have a decent piece in the bigman rotation.
    I never said amnesty. I said trade him

    If Nesterovic stays as part of the rotation i guess that either him or Oberto will see few playing minutes. I guess it will be Nesterovic because he almost didn't play during the playoffs.

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    The Spurs obviously decided that keeping Radosoft and forgoing some of the luxury tax distributions was worth keeping him from joining a contender for nothing.

    I think one of the reasons the Spurs couldn't get anything for Radosoft before the deadline was that other teams believed the Spurs would waive him under the amnesty clause.

    Anyways, the Spurs retain some bigman depth and also, they avoid seeing him join a rival for nothing while they pay his salary.

    I've been one of Rasho's toughest critics in this forum but he isn't that bad. His skilled play does make up for his lack of physicality in the paint. Sooner or later another team will find themselves in need of a center and Rasho will look rather attractive. If not, the Spurs will have a decent piece in the bigman rotation.
    you're dillusional. Nobody wants Rasho period. Has nothing to do with anything you just mentioned but all to do with his poor play last year. At best the guy is an 8pt 6rb guy who plays soft. Not very attractive especially at almost 7mil per year.

    What skill are you talking about? His only skill is that he is 7ft with long arms.

    I do think he is not bad to have in the rotation for size and defensive purposes, but ideally it would be at 3-4mil per year.

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    you're dillusional. Nobody wants Rasho period. Has nothing to do with anything you just mentioned but all to do with his poor play last year. At best the guy is an 8pt 6rb guy who plays soft. Not very attractive especially at almost 7mil per year.
    What's Adonal Foyle's redeeming quality?


    What skill are you talking about? His only skill is that he is 7ft with long arms.
    Setting screens, defensive rotations, good positional defense, etc...


    I do think he is not bad to have in the rotation for size and defensive purposes, but ideally it would be at 3-4mil per year.
    What big are you going to find in the NBA at that price?

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    What's Adonal Foyle's redeeming quality?
    way better shot blocker, he's right up there with Ratliff. However, someone was smoking something when Adonal was offered that crazy contract.




    Setting screens, defensive rotations, good positional defense, etc...
    I'll give you that.




    What big are you going to find in the NBA at that price?
    oberto for starters.

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    I never said amnesty. I said trade him

    If Nesterovic stays as part of the rotation i guess that either him or Oberto will see few playing minutes. I guess it will be Nesterovic because he almost didn't play during the playoffs.

    So the Spurs have some bigman depth in case of injury or to limit the minutes of Duncan and Horry in the regular season.

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    way better shot blocker, he's right up there with Ratliff. However, someone was smoking something when Adonal was offered that crazy contract.
    Bigs don't come cheap in the NBA.


    oberto for starters.
    Special case. Foyle, Cardinal, Dampier, etc...are the norm.

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    way better shot blocker, he's right up there with Ratliff. However, someone was smoking something when Adonal was offered that crazy contract.




    That is a common affliction with NBA GMs when it comes to big men. The league is littered with overpaid bigs but they still keep getting offers.

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    I think this forum is way over hyped about shipping Rasho off. Buford and Popovich know a thing or two about making trades and I bet you they are not "burnin' up the phone lines" trying to unload Rasho.

    Oberto may or may not be in the rotation. If Rasho stays, someone, either Rasho, Oberto or Nazr is going to see less playing time.

    There are other teams with worse problems and worse payrolls than having a 7 footer who is capable of starting on a lot of teams in addition to two other quality centers.

    There is a trade deadline in February and it will be more of a sellers market then. Why rush to do something you don't need to do and settle for less than you want to?

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    I agree that this should be your last thread that you start on this subject.

    There are about 1000 threads about Rasho. All of your ideas on how to get rid of him can be posted in the same thread. Please stop starting a new thread for your every thought.
    Amen, Kori Ellis......I'm sick and tired of reading threads on how to get rid of Nesterovic.

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    Bigs don't come cheap in the NBA.




    Special case. Foyle, Cardinal, Dampier, etc...are the norm.
    Brezec, Nesterovic's slovenian teemate is playing for 2,5 millons this season.

    By the way, Minnesota is looking for possible trades for Olowakandi who is expiring, i wonder if they want Nesterovic back, lol.

    Wait and see can also be a good option.

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    Brezec, Nesterovic's slovenian teemate is playing for 2,5 millons this season.
    Charlotte bought low before Brezec had any appreciable playing time. Wait for his next deal.
    Wait and see can also be a good option.
    More than likely that's what will happen.

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    Yeah, if Oberto pans out the Spurs will be facing a rather sizable bill for him 3 years from now.

    If Radosoft was really as worthless as the forum consensus seems to be about him, the Spurs would've dropped him yesterday.

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    I love how people are ready to hand the starting job to an unproven Oberto yet they are ready to drop Nesterovic in a heart beat based on some stats after he came off an injury. I do NOT trust Oberto to be even my #2 center yet. I don't see Nesterovic going anywhere. And if he does then we had better get a very solid big either through the trade or in ency.

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    I love how people are ready to hand the starting job to an unproven Oberto yet they are ready to drop Nesterovic in a heart beat based on some stats after he came off an injury. I do NOT trust Oberto to be even my #2 center yet. I don't see Nesterovic going anywhere. And if he does then we had better get a very solid big either through the trade or in ency.

    Well, sure. But the Spurs undoubtedly would love to have him and his $7.5 mil over 3 seasons contract in the starting lineup.

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    I love how people are ready to hand the starting job to an unproven Oberto yet they are ready to drop Nesterovic in a heart beat based on some stats after he came off an injury. I do NOT trust Oberto to be even my #2 center yet. I don't see Nesterovic going anywhere. And if he does then we had better get a very solid big either through the trade or in ency.
    well, i don't know if he is so unproven. Oberto is one of the Argentinian team that reached the world cup finals in 2002 and won the gold medal in Athens, although he got injured against Usa.

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