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    Hmm, i observed Dallas contracts and not releasing Finley might not sound bad. The have Abdul-Wahad at 15 millons for 2 years. At least Finley play.

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    tariq abdur-wahad's contract is only partially guarenteed. Some of it will come off the lux tax naturally if they just cut him.

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    Ya know, Cuban has billion$ of dollar$ in his back pocket. He wouldn't even notice the luxury tax if he had to pay it.

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    The Wolves showing their class by waiving a player that just had to have a pacemaker put in to stop him from dying.

    No wonder that franchise won't ever amount to anything.
    Classy LJ. What next? Redicule the Pacers for waiving Miller? The poor guy more than likely retired bc his recovery isn't going well.


    Put some thought into your comments.

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    He also more than likely came to the wolves brass and TOLD them to waive him, knowing that the deadline was tonight and figured it would help to make a decision NOW.

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    Reggie Miller is retired. Hoiberg isn't retired and has been told that he can play again.

    Has something changed about that?

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    Miller retired for a reason. The Pacers just wanted to take advantage of Tax Free Weekend...so to speak.

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    Classy LJ. What next? Redicule the Pacers for waiving Miller? The poor guy more than likely retired bc his recovery isn't going well.


    Put some thought into your comments.


    Stop being such a homer. He's said all summer that he plans on coming back. And he hasn't even ruled out coming back this season.

    The Wolves are just being cheap and throwing a guy under the bus who has given his best seasons to the team. Sure he has a long road to recovery, but that's no reason for the Wolves to waive him to save a couple million. It was a cheap move against a very classy player.

    Look at what the Spurs have done. The Spurs could have waived Sean Elliott after his kidney transplant because there was a clause in the contract giving the Spurs that out -- but the Spurs didn't. Elliott and the Spurs handled it with class.

    What next? Are the Wolves going to make a contract deal under the table?

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    He also more than likely came to the wolves brass and TOLD them to waive him, knowing that the deadline was tonight and figured it would help to make a decision NOW.
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    Yeah, you better hope you are psychic. Unless that is exactly what happened, you are homering out to a trash franchise.

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    The Rockets just waived Weatherspoon.

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    Odd -- is Minnesota even in danger of going over the tax threshold this coming season? Doesn't seem possible unless they are going to try and pull some big sign and trade with their free agents like Spree and Johnson.

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    Funny how Sam cassell when he was only two years older was being said he'd never recover fully but somehow you expect Hoiberg, who can't even be getting into mildy good physcial shape to play this year? He'll be lucky to help out the second half of next year. Depending on how his outlook is, he can sign with the wolves after this season. This isn't a "play with the pain" or splice it up type of injury. Frddy has said his family are more important to him than basketball

    Dude's blanking out after a couple of stairs and YOU expect him to be draining threes in a couple months?


    He'll probably remain around evem if he never plays again as some sort of coach or management figure. Which you must think is very unlikely, bc of him getting shortchanged and all. The face of the franchise at the draft, fan faverite, and future coach isn't worth a million or so, even to Sterling.

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    I just hope The Mayor can have a good, long life...whether he plays ball again or not. Fred was one of the best athletes to ever come out of Iowa. Bob Feller and Dan Gable are probably the most heralded, but Hoiberg was a high school star in both football and basketball.

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    Fred Hoiberg, who underwent an aortic root operation in June, and Glen Taylor, who survived bypass surgery six years ago, had a heart-to-heart conversation last week.
    Timberwolves owner Taylor did most of the talking as he informed Hoiberg he was going to be released by the NBA club.
    Ostensibly, the move came under the NBA's "amnesty clause," part of the league's new collective bargaining agreement. The clause allows a team to waive a player, pay him his salary, but rid itself of salary cap and luxury tax issues.
    But Taylor said Monday, "This was not a basketball decision. It was one of those things that I didn't ask the coach [Dwane Casey] or Mac [president Kevin McHale]. I decided."
    Taylor decided that Hoiberg, 32, who has suffered some setbacks and complications since his surgery and the insertion of a pacemaker, shouldn't be rushed back for next season.

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    Hoiberg wasn't available for comment Monday.
    He will be paid $1.76 million next season for not playing. Even though he's been cut, the team can re-sign him for the 2006-07 season, if he's fully recovered from his surgery.
    That was Taylor's point to the 6-5 Hoiberg.
    " 'Fred, I'm really concerned about your health and you coming back this year,' " Taylor recalled telling Hoiberg in their phone conversation. "I think there's going to be a tendency among the media and fans to say, 'Whoa, we can't wait 'til Fred comes back. Maybe we'll have him for the playoffs.' People are going to be setting a timeline for you. There should be no timeline other than your own health."
    Taylor said Hoiberg didn't argue. He said Hoiberg wasn't "100 percent happy" because he worried that he wouldn't be part of the team. But Taylor told him he could coach, if he wanted, as he recovered.
    Taylor related his own experience. In 1999, doctors ordered him to refrain from going into his office until he was fully recovered from his heart bypass surgery.
    "I came to work right away," Taylor said. "That's the problem with those compe ive guys."
    Most of Monday's releases were salary-cap skirts and luxury-tax dodges.
    For the coming season, any team with a payroll higher than $61.7 million will be taxed by the league dollar for dollar; if a team has a $66.7 million payroll, it will owe $5 million to league coffers.
    The Wolves' payroll last season was about $71 million. But without Latrell Sprewell ($14.6 million) and Ervin Johnson ($5 million) on the payroll next season, they might be under the tax threshold.
    Still, by releasing Hoiberg, the team is playing it safe as it pertains to the tax. By focusing on his recovery, Hoiberg is playing it safe, too.



    I don't have one single problem with this move at all.

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    "Amnesty rule victims, team savings "

    Where's Finley?

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