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    Bayness will be gone. Hopefully Spurs can work some deal with Philly for one of their 2nd rounders.
    Baynes is cheap, efficient, reliable = a great big man insurance.

    Ayres, on the other hand, is pretty much useless, and more expensive. That's the one the Spurs should deal.

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    Aaron Brooks? He is like a Westbrook without athleticism
    If you watch the games with Denver, he actually plays a lot like Mills. Not the best passer, but super fast and moves the ball around, real sharp 3 pt shooter and isn't afraid to take the big shots. He would do great in SA imo.

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    Aminu isn't a good enough 3 point shooter for the Spurs' system. Marvin Williams and Ariza are better fits but would cost twice as much. Maybe Evan Turner. In those cases Tim would probably have to restructure his deal. Wes Johnson would be cheaper, but may not pan out for a team looking to win now.
    has some handle and would probably be more of a 4 and occasionally a 3 for us. Could be paired with Diaw off the bench or even start on occasion with Splitter and Diaw off the bench.

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    One of those SFs would be interesting - Marvin Williams, Aminu...

    I see Baynes as staying. He played well in very spot minutes in the POs, is huge and tough. Ayres, I think, has to be gone.

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    We wont know who is available for sure until we:
    Pre-req = DRAFT/Tim's decision

    1. Resign/let walk
    2. Let the ty organizations make it rain on their "franchise saving" free-agent.
    3. After the dust settles find out who are the "character guys" if any from this list,
    4. Offer QUALITY GUYS, BUSINESS LIKE OFFERS

    5. win the championship.


    Nothing happens until the draft, and tim decision.... we got a week

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    Looking at that SF list:

    Deng and Ariza are the best players here but they're way outside our price range. We could always try to convince them to take a paycut to be on a contender but I doubt either will consider it. They're both 29 and this will likely be their last big payday before they get too old. Love to have either one though. They're both, easily, the most ready to contribute to a contending team of all the small forwards on this list.

    Pierce, Marion, and Kirilenko are done. Signing old, washed up vets would be a backasswards move for this team. I don't want to see a repeat of the 2008 Spurs. Jefferson too but I didn't want to put his name next to three players that USED to be good. RJ was never good. him.

    Evan Turner's a trainwreck on both ends of the court and Wes Johnson sucks. Considering his production, Marvin Williams is overpriced at 7 mil.

    That leaves:

    Al Farouq Aminu
    PJ Tucker
    CJ Miles

    Tucker and Miles are both better offensively but Aminu is clearly the best defender in this group. His offense is raw and needs a lot of work but I like his upside. A summer with Chip would work wonders for him.

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    If Mills leaves, you guys need to grab Brooks. Dude had some pretty crazy games in Denver when he was starting for them. I do hope he comes back to the rockets though.
    Would that be the 3rd or 4th time?

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    Deng and Ariza are the best players here but they're way outside our price range.
    Deng is getting paid for sure. Ariza, not so sure. He's earning around $7m right now and I don't see him getting paid a lot more than that.

    Pierce, Marion, and Kirilenko are done.
    Pierce and Kirilenko are certainly done. Marion not so much. He averaged 10.5 and 6.5 in 32 minutes. He could definitely back-up Kawhi, but he's 35 and not getting any younger, that's for sure. But somehow with his aura he might get paid more than Ariza anyway...

    Tucker and Miles are both better offensively but Aminu is clearly the best defender in this group. His offense is raw and needs a lot of work but I like his upside. A summer with Chip would work wonders for him.
    How much could the Spurs throw at Aminu?

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    Would that be the 3rd or 4th time?
    Lost count, tbh.

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    I would like Aminu too.
    How much was his last contract?
    And has he or the Spurs ever expressed interest in each other?

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    Baynes is cheap, efficient, reliable = a great big man insurance.

    Ayres, on the other hand, is pretty much useless, and more expensive. That's the one the Spurs should deal.
    He wont sign for 1 mil. Somebody will give him 2mil at least.

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    He wont sign for 1 mil. Somebody will give him 2mil at least.
    Might be the case. It remains to be seen, and the Spurs might find the money to match an offer.

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    Our own free agents are more important than any free agents we could potentially aquire.. re-signing Diaw and Mills should be our priority. Maybe Let Bonner walk unless he signs for pocket change. As it stands, The Spurs are the best team (by leaps and bounds) and they don't need to make any changes.

    OKC is about 1 or 2 decent pieces away from being better than the Spurs if healthy, and they have more cap room.

    LAC is a SF and good backup big away from being possibly the most talented team in the league (and look at what's available).

    HOU is probably gonna swing for the fences this offseason, and if they land someone like Melo they're automatically the favorites IMO.

    GSW still has an extremely solid roster, upgraded their coaching, and was a Bogut injury away from a deep run.

    The Spurs were the best team this year, but if they sit back and resign guys like Bonner, they face a significant risk of being heavily outgunned next year. I don't think they should make any huge moves, but if Mills walks they need to turn that money into a significant contributor.

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    OKC is about 1 or 2 decent pieces away from being better than the Spurs if healthy, and they have more cap room.

    LAC is a SF and good backup big away from being possibly the most talented team in the league (and look at what's available).

    HOU is probably gonna swing for the fences this offseason, and if they land someone like Melo they're automatically the favorites IMO.

    GSW still has an extremely solid roster, upgraded their coaching, and was a Bogut injury away from a deep run.

    The Spurs were the best team this year, but if they sit back and resign guys like Bonner, they face a significant risk of being heavily outgunned next year. I don't think they should make any huge moves, but if Mills walks they need to turn that money into a significant contributor.
    Some really good points.
    The Spurs have to be fluid and continue to grow, but they don't have to make huge changes, just subtle positive ones.
    But they cannot stand pat and expect to win it again, they learned that lesson after all their previous championships.

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    Paul Pierce should be on the PF list and i want him bad, you sign him as Bonner replacment(move Bonner to be the toros coach), let him start along side Duncan(bringing Tiago and Boris of the bench) and than you go for 70 wins season!
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    He wont sign for 1 mil. Somebody will give him 2mil at least.
    Shamsports shows Baynes with a qualifying offer for a little over $1.1M. I would think the Spurs keep him for that price.


    Pierce would be a fun get, the Spurs would have 4 Finals MVPs on the roster. I've heard of 3 of those at one time (Lakers and Celtics in the 80s) but never 4.

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    Get Carter for the minimum.

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    Spurs created the 3&D guy type of player a long time ago.
    They improved it in a 3&D and pass guy type of player.

    We need one more of thoses at the SF position

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    Shamsports shows Baynes with a qualifying offer for a little over $1.1M. I would think the Spurs keep him for that price.


    Pierce would be a fun get, the Spurs would have 4 Finals MVPs on the roster. I've heard of 3 of those at one time (Lakers and Celtics in the 80s) but never 4.
    So he is restricted. But if Philly with aussie coach gives him 6 mil/3 years I doubt Spurs would match

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    And assuming Diaw and Mills come back we don't need anything else than a backup SF.

    The big rotation is great with Baynes that will come back better next year. Only a 3 point specialist could help if Bonner doesn't come back
    The guard position is already stacked and getting another good player could damage it

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    And assuming Diaw and Mills come back we don't need anything else than a backup SF.
    There is Daye, there is Jean-Charles, Bertrans or Thomas is Europe

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    PJ Tucker please
    Solid idea!

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    Definitely Aminu. If Engelland can give him a reliable jumpshot, he will be a ridiculous pairing next to Leonard for the future. Will also have a long body to throw at Durant and Lebron.

    Maybe Channing Frye. Spurs need an upgrade over Ayers and hopefully Baynes can see some more minutes. Frye can probably get a bigger role elsewhere though. Throw money at Mills and Diaw until they agree to come back and the Spurs should be pretty solid at all 5 spots.

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    There is Daye, there is Jean-Charles, Bertrans or Thomas is Europe
    A backup SF that would be good enough that pop would give him minutes or could start when Leonard is injured.
    Only Jean-Charles in your list seems to have the potential. Anyone knows if he'll play in the summer league?

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    OKC is about 1 or 2 decent pieces away from being better than the Spurs if healthy, and they have more cap room.

    LAC is a SF and good backup big away from being possibly the most talented team in the league (and look at what's available).

    HOU is probably gonna swing for the fences this offseason, and if they land someone like Melo they're automatically the favorites IMO.

    GSW still has an extremely solid roster, upgraded their coaching, and was a Bogut injury away from a deep run.

    The Spurs were the best team this year, but if they sit back and resign guys like Bonner, they face a significant risk of being heavily outgunned next year. I don't think they should make any huge moves, but if Mills walks they need to turn that money into a significant contributor.
    Melo on the Rockets makes that team an even bigger joke than they are now. They play zero defense, and they'd be trading all their good role players for a volume shooter who doesn't play defense. If you think KD and Westbrook fight over the ball, wait till Harden and Melo got on the same team.

    I don't think OKC is one or two "decent" players away from being better than the Spurs. They are one or two perfect fits away, and acquiring perfect fits is about way more than just cap space.

    GSW is solid but not a threat to the Spurs as cons uted.

    LAC are a very good team, but to be a real threat Blake Griffin needs to be a great player in more than just the regular season. We haven't seen him dominate in the playoffs ever.

    Nonetheless agree with the overall point. Other teams will get better. If the Spurs re-sign Patty and Boris, maybe upgrade the end of the bench, it'll be a great offseason.

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