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    Honestly the Spurs have been racking in the Checks lately. I would really like to keep everyone even if it meant paying a luxury tax for one year. After next year Tim and Manu come off the books and bring the payroll back down. But damn they have paid t before...what better time then now!

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    Funny that at the lower end of the salary range, everyone seems to be in agreement that a player should take money over le chances. However, at the upper end, people seem to disagree that Lebron should go where he can make the most money instead of going where he can have the best le chances.
    That sounds logical to me. At the lower end, a player isn't really affecting his team's chances all that much, and with little in the way of endorsements and big fat contracts, has to be putting a lot of thought into being financially secure. At the higher end, guys like Lebron are already filthy rich and the only thing that should count for them is to establish their legacy.

    Plus Patty is already a champion anyway. He can focus on $$$ now.

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    No way we are letting our #1 PG leave

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    Phil still trolling Pop

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    State tax in NY is absurd, none in Texas this is a huge advantage for the spurs. That being said cojo can fill in just fine

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    They can't be getting Mills with 3.2 mil mini MLE
    Spurs can and will match that easily.

    I am not even sure they can do a sign-and-trade, given their cap status
    If yes, I am pretty sure that Spurs FO will get a couple of lottery picks from Knicks, which would be very useful, giving Spur's future needs

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Patty takes over the starting PG job in 2 - 3 years from Parker. Diaw is our priority though.

    BTW does Portland have any cap. If they do, i expect them to overpay.

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    Patty is worth 4-6 million dollars. If the spurs are within reason, he will stay. Why would he go to the Knicks, even for a million more? Doesnt make sense. Spurs will pay Mills and Diaw.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Patty takes over the starting PG job in 2 - 3 years from Parker. Diaw is our priority though.

    BTW does Portland have any cap. If they do, i expect them to overpay.
    They are just over if Mo Williams opts in or just under if he opts out. They could probably free up some cap-room through a trade or just use one of their options to try to pry him away. Not sure what his departure from Portland was like though which could raise or lower his price for them.

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    The likes of Derek Fisher, Ron Harper, Danny Ainge, etc. etc. shows that you don't need to be Magic, Stockton, Kidd type of passer and distributor if your team as a whole has great passers.

    That is why Patty does so well in the Spurs system. He is a good passer (not great), he can run the offense but w limitations. He doesn't turn the ball over, and him being in the top 10 in steals per 36 is impressive as well.

    People forget, Parker was not a good passer when he first entered the league. TBH, Patty was just as good as Parker was at this point of his career at point of his career. Patty is the perfect PG in the Spurs System b/c it doesn't require him to be the primary play maker.

    Like Pop said in Game 4 mini movie from NBA.com, EVERYBODY'S A PG.

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    Patty is worth 4-6 million dollars. If the spurs are within reason, he will stay. Why would he go to the Knicks, even for a million more? Doesnt make sense. Spurs will pay Mills and Diaw.
    To start...

    People don't get that there very few openings to become a starting PG... If he can prove he can be a starter that'd change his whole career... He hasn't and won't prove that in San Antonio.

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    Knicks can only offer him mini mid-level exception...

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    To start...

    People don't get that there very few openings to become a starting PG... If he can prove he can be a starter that'd change his whole career... He hasn't and won't prove that in San Antonio.
    If you look at the staring positions available, you probably have the Heat (no way Mills go there), Knicks, Bucks and Hornets as teams needing a PG (taking into account the Magic draft Exum and Lakers draft Smart w Nash staring still). Mills is not a type of guy to go to a team to just start and his whole team sucks, especially since the Spurs are more than likely will match any offers to the MLE.

    Mills loves his teammates. Mills gets minutes, he gets recognition (Pop even called him the 6th man off the bench this year), he gets respect with the Spurs. With Tony age and health being a question the last couple of years, the Spurs need Mills, plain and simple.

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    Closer the price goes past $4million/year and toward $5million, the less likely the Spurs retain. But he's a major weapon, not just a Speedy Claxton type, and I expect the Spurs to opent he wallet a bit to keep him.

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    there is some belief that this was patty's first good year and he has been in the nba since 2009
    he is the product of the spurs season
    can he be this good next year with no manu on the court with him

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    Haha Mills might have interest in playing in New York because someone from the NY Post thinks he would. ty articles.

    SPurs would probably match the 3.2 mil but we can't offer him a starting position.

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    there is some belief that this was patty's first good year and he has been in the nba since 2009
    he is the product of the spurs season
    can he be this good next year with no manu on the court with him
    All I have to say, is Mills have avg 20 ppg when the big 3 has sat out the past 3 years and the Spurs I believe have won all those games.

    He avg. 15 ppg in 22 mpg when Manu was out in Jan-Feb. The first game Manu came back, Parker was out, and Mills scored 25 pts and 5 ast 1 TO in 27 minutes against the Clips at LA.

    Tell me, who in Free Agency can replace that kind of production for MLE. Pretty much NO ONE.

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    With what money?!? please don't start to bring here bs rumors!

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    With what money?!? please don't start to bring here bs rumor!
    HE'S ALIVE. So how are you feeling these days Kobyz.

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    The spurs goy you cheaply for a year, you have your ring patty so take the highest offer

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    Figure it'll take about 3 years, $20 million to bring Boris back, and 4 years, $18 million to bring back Patty. With no more 6-7 year contracts I think the Spurs have a great shot to retain both.
    That number for Patty seems about right. I'm still not sure about Boris tbh. He's one of the most versatile players in the league but i think some GMs will question his effectiveness outside of the system and Pop and be wary of throwing a big contract at him.

    , I'm pretty sure he's gonna Horry the regular season for the next couple of years for the Spurs if they bring him back.

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    All I have to say, is Mills have avg 20 ppg when the big 3 has sat out the past 3 years and the Spurs I believe have won all those games.

    He avg. 15 ppg in 22 mpg when Manu was out in Jan-Feb. The first game Manu came back, Parker was out, and Mills scored 25 pts and 5 ast 1 TO in 27 minutes against the Clips at LA.

    Tell me, who in Free Agency can replace that kind of production for MLE. Pretty much NO ONE.
    I got that info from sa newspaper and some western scout was having concerns

    there is also concerns diaw only wants to play in sa not anywhere else

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    Just for comparison, Matt Bonner's expiring is 3.9 million. We obviously drastically overpaid for him, but Mills is probably worth right around 4, give or take a few hundred thousand.

    I'm sorry, I LOVE Patty, but I can't see him being worth 6 mil a year in this guard loaded league. He's a fantastic player, but he hasn't shown the ability to grind out games over the season and still be a huge factor come playoff time.

    Hope we keep them both. Patty would be a bargain under 3.5 mil. Anything more than 4.5 and you're starting to take up serious cap room.

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    Just for comparison, Matt Bonner's expiring is 3.9 million. We obviously drastically overpaid for him, but Mills is probably worth right around 4, give or take a few hundred thousand.

    I'm sorry, I LOVE Patty, but I can't see him being worth 6 mil a year in this guard loaded league. He's a fantastic player, but he hasn't shown the ability to grind out games over the season and still be a huge factor come playoff time.

    Hope we keep them both. Patty would be a bargain under 3.5 mil. Anything more than 4.5 and you're starting to take up serious cap room.
    I'm fine with overpaying for three years on top of next to get Patty for that one last run next season. The Spurs have needed a backup point so desperately until this season, and not having one cost them les in both 2012 and 2013. Not like the Spurs are going to be competing for les anyways when Tim & Manu retire, which has a good chance of happening at the end of the 2015 season. The Spurs are in no real danger of hitting the luxury tax for 2014-15 since they won't need to pay Kawhi market value until 2015-16 when either Tim & Manu retire or likely take futher paycuts on their next deals.

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    I'm fine with overpaying for three years on top of next to get Patty for that one last run next season. The Spurs have needed a backup point so desperately until this season, and not having one cost them les in both 2012 and 2013. Not like the Spurs are going to be competing for les anyways when Tim & Manu retire, which has a good chance of happening at the end of the 2015 season. The Spurs are in no real danger of hitting the luxury tax for 2014-15 since they won't need to pay Kawhi market value until 2015-16 when either Tim & Manu retire or likely take futher paycuts on their next deals.
    That's a good point. Though I'd like to see us add a 10th player who can come in and contribute, particularly someone like McRoberts or Gasol. It would make this insanely good team even better, and give us a LOT of depth protection against any injuries.

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