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    Veteran N0 LyF3 ScRuB's Avatar
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    Calderon is the better point guard at this point.. Felton used to be. Felton had a tough year, but hopefully a new environment will change that.. still see mediocrity though.


    Chandler is going to be huge for Dallas - obviously. I see Dallas being a top 5-6 seed this year unless Dirk falls off completely.

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    Who cares about Felton sucking. Calderon, while a better player, isn't a good player and hasn't won due in large part to his short-comings as a player. So while he may improve NY due to replacing Felton, losing Tyson for Sam negates that any ways.

    They lose future cap space/flexibility, lose the best player on an expiring deal (aka the most tradeable asset) & make no gains on the court. Yes, they might open themselves up to getting below the apron for Sign & Trades, but they literally have no good assets that teams would want

    They have no cap space this year to sign FA's outright. They have a terrible team still. They have less cap space in the future. They have less tradeable assets IMO all for the ability topossibly do Sign & Trades this year & 2 2nd round picks. Ok.
    Calderon will struggle because of the lack of system in New York.. just like Bargnani. Larkin is a pretty good prospect, though..

    Like you said Calderon > Felton at this point.

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    Mark + Donnie meet Chandler at airport with roses & a "Sorry about that," card.

    Tyson accepts. One tear rolls down cheek.

    *Credits roll*

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    Good trade. But lol at Cuban admitting he should have resigned Chandler.
    If he is healthy great trade. Like I saiiiid, you keep Tyson let the midget and Lincoln ,,,walk.
    Heck Tyson, Calderon Ellis and Dirk is a great starting core.

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    Sign Lowry and Deng if we miss out on lebron tbh

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    Calderon will struggle because of the lack of system in New York.. just like Bargnani. Larkin is a pretty good prospect, though..

    Like you said Calderon > Felton at this point.
    They better feel that Larkin is the next Tony Parker IMO to justify this. It doesn't kill them or anything, but it makes an already awful situation slightly worse IMO. Who cares if Calderon>Felton at this point. That is irrelevant IMO because overall losing Tyson negates that and even if it didn't, Calderon being better doesn't lead to anything tangible because their team is awful.

    Other than possibly valuing 2nd round picks, thinking Shane arkin is a good prospect and thinking the ability to do a S&T (with no assets to offer) I can't see why they did this. To me, losing cap space in the near future is not worth any of that ^

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    While probably not happening, the thought of getting Carmello is still intriguing to me...

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    Calderon is actually a solid fit for a team running the triangle, but that roster is a mess anyway. I'd rather keep the giant expiring deal
    people keep thinking that's still a good value under the new cba, but it's sooooo isn't man.

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    i didn't watch much knick basketball...was tyson chandler sorry as last year or nah?

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    While probably not happening, the thought of getting Carmello is still intriguing to me...
    nah, y'all got a better shot at lowry

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    Mavs can easily get Melo financially. It all depends on what Dirk takes. If Dirk comes in with a low, low contract (like 13M), they should have 20M to offer Melo.

    Felton/Monta/Melo/Dirk/Tyson

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    Breaking up a le team ... should of at least kept daddy Tyson was a perfect complement for Dirk.

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    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    Mavs can easily get Melo financially. It all depends on what Dirk takes. If Dirk comes in with a low, low contract (like 13M), they should have 20M to offer Melo.

    Felton/Monta/Melo/Dirk/Tyson
    I think Harris would end up starting over Felton most likely. I would hope he does anyways. The defense would be pretty solid and long with that lineup. And hopefully they can get Marion to stay as well for the MLE or something.

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    Doubt Melo comes but Deng is possible.

    Felton
    Ellis
    Deng
    Dirk
    Daddy

    With the 2nd best coach in the NBA wont win a le but could be dangerous in a playoff. Heck they played the Spurs better than anyone else with crappy center play.

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    What stupid demands?
    The Mavs are giving up two of their starters, their highest draft pick in a while and at least one second-rounder. They're doing all that while taking back Felton's salary so that they can take back a player the Knicks will be looking to dump in two weeks. What sense does that make? The only things Dallas didn't give up were Ellis instead of Calderon and their first next year (which they can trade starting tomorrow, before anyone tries to say they can't).

    Dallas had all the leverage in this deal. They didn't need Chandler. The center trade market is going to be surprisingly strong this off-season. New York, in fact, is likely to get one of those centers, which is why they're looking to trade Chandler right now (in addition to their half-hearted attempt to get a better roster together before the first of July). Tyson is still a good player, but his stock is not very high right now. Have we even heard about any other team wanting him? The Mavs could have waited on this deal for a while, since Chandler's price was only going to decline next month. They weren't in danger of losing cap space by waiting, since they're not using it to complete this deal. In fact, they lose space by doing it now.

    Dallas should have offered to take Chandler off the Knicks' hands using their cap space or even doing to the Calderon/Felton swap. But if they went the PG route, they should have tried to get an asset out of New York, or at least not given up a few themselves.

    This is as bad as the Bargnani trade from a leverage standpoint, although it's obviously better from a personnel/value standpoint. Dallas can certainly recover by signing a PG like Lowery and picking up a small-forward like Ariza with their cap space. But they still messed up this part of the off-season.

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    Breaking up a le team ... should of at least kept daddy Tyson was a perfect complement for Dirk.
    Oh really? Is there more we need to know?

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    mavfan still getting trolled by the played out "should have kept chandler" shtick

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    it's clear phil is cleaning house, that's what he has to.

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    mavfan still getting trolled by the played out "should have kept chandler" shtick
    You actually think KillaKobe did it purpose.

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    You actually think KillaKobe did it purpose.
    keep digging that hole deeper

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    keep digging that hole deeper
    What hole?

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    It's pretty much as bad from a leverage standpoint as the Melo-to-Knicks trade. Cuban got wrecked.

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