so ray rice will only miss 2 games for tiger uppercutting his wife

[The Gemini Method]

It has nothing to do with timing. Goodell did this because of the Rice incident. Had Ray snuffed out the cameras first, no one would be questioning the NFL's policies regarding domestic violence.

I'm not sure that is entirely true. It may be the straw that broke Goodell's back, but it wasn't like the actions of many other players beginning to push for a change in penalties or the creation of stiffer penalties. Because you have Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, the many actions of Kenny Britt, and whatnot. It would've eventually been an issue that couldn't be denied. It was just the outrage over the Ray Rice's situation that proved to be the push.

[DD]

OT, but I wanna say that up until 2008 or so you were legally allowed to rape your wife if you were in the military (on leave or whatnot).

[Chinook]

I'm not sure that is entirely true. It may be the straw that broke Goodell's back, but it wasn't like the actions of many other players beginning to push for a change in penalties or the creation of stiffer penalties. Because you have Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, the many actions of Kenny Britt, and whatnot. It would've eventually been an issue that couldn't be denied. It was just the outrage over the Ray Rice's situation that proved to be the push.

Yeah. And in today's league, Rice would not have hit Palmer at all. Something else may well have broken this open, but I think the fact that Rice was caught on video is what forced change, even if the video is more inconclusive than people realize.

[DD]

Oh it was pretty conclusive alright...my compubox had Ray winning det one

[The Gemini Method]

Yeah. And in today's league, Rice would not have hit Palmer at all. Something else may well have broken this open, but I think the fact that Rice was caught on video is what forced change, even if the video is more inconclusive than people realize.

I'm thinking, though, along what you're saying and what if Roger gave Ray a 6-8 game suspension? Would that have quelled the domestic abuse banter? Now, the definition remains to be seen--what cons utes domestic abuse? Is this towards females? What about beating up some dude in the club? How about DUI? I mean, the Jovan Belcher incident didn't move the NFL so to see this happen could be something that changes the league's stance on a mul ude of things like the whole pot smoking rules and whatnot.

[Chinook]

I'm thinking, though, along what you're saying and what if Roger gave Ray a 6-8 game suspension? Would that have quelled the domestic abuse banter? Now, the definition remains to be seen--what cons utes domestic abuse? Is this towards females? What about beating up some dude in the club? How about DUI? I mean, the Jovan Belcher incident didn't move the NFL so to see this happen could be something that changes the league's stance on a mul ude of things like the whole pot smoking rules and whatnot.

Doubt it. The league only care about this because enough people are complaining about it. The world is pretty topsy-turvy right now with the way rights theory is being applied. People don't care about the world becoming fair. They just care about their interests being dominant.

[The Gemini Method]

Doubt it. The league only care about this because enough people are complaining about it. The world is pretty topsy-turvy right now with the way rights theory is being applied. People don't care about the world becoming fair. They just care about their interests being dominant.

That is sadly true. the 80's being the 'me' generation--this is by far the time to get your cause out in the air.