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    yeah, Robertson has proven himself a great liar, eh?

    CNN) -- Conservative religious broadcaster Pat Robertson said Wednesday that his remarks about the removal of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez were taken out of context and that he never called for the killing of the Latin American leader.

    "I didn't say 'assassination.' I said our special forces should 'take him out.' And 'take him out' can be a number of things, including kidnapping; there are a number of ways to take out a dictator from power besides killing him. I was misinterpreted by the AP , but that happens all the time," Robertson said on "The 700 Club" program.

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    "If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think we really ought to go ahead and do it," said Robertson on Monday's program. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war."
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    he was misinterpreted by 99% or the population including CNN who had that news on their website for more than 24 hours

    what a ing moron!

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    if cindy sheehan speaks for all liberals then pat robertson speaks for all conservatives
    right whottt?

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    No mookie...he doesn't...notice the absence of support Robertson's comments have...

    And Robertson, as others have pointed out, is a lot more like the conservative version of Michael Moore....

    When you see Robertson sitting next to Ford or either of the Bush's at the next RNC...then you can justifiably associate him as a leader of the Republican Party, like Moore has become for the Democrats.

    And furthermore...when you start running into a bunch of Republicans who sound like a cross between Robertson and someone who gained their political knowledge from googling Rightwing websites...then you can claim the Republicans are as ed up as the Democrats...


    I know you libs get ed up by moral equivalencies and don't have mental capacity to differentiate these things...so just consider this a helping hand from myself...


    And BTW...I am not a conservative...I just think the Democrats are seriously ed in the head these days as well as heavily anti-American...and the Republicans aren't....

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    If Chavez tried to invade Brazil, the end result would be a Brazilian government tickled pink about its oil-filled lake in its new northern province.

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    you bring up Moore all the time!
    dont you think it would be kind of lame to talk about pat robertson in all my arguments?

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    The US is imperialistic. You(and various red bashers) talk about Chavez ruining Venezuala's economy, but show me the figures on how rich and wonderful they were before Chavez. I'll bet you(prove me wrong) that there were the rich elites and the very poor. Now that the resources are nationalized, the people may be better off. Just my opinion, and guess. I'm sure whott will just call me anti-american, because he is somehow the authority, and prove nothing.

    Well it's always easy for an idiot to tell people what system they should live under...especially when he doesn't, nor has he ever, lived under that system.

    You want to go live under a soon to be dictator then go ahead...no one is stopping you.

    Here's the way capitalism works...those that want to be rich, and have the drive and intelligence to do so...can do so.


    Socialism on the OTOH...it does not promise you relief from poverty...it just promises you that you will never be wealthy...

    Well some people want to be wealthy and are willing to work hard and in many cases advance the human race in the cause of doing so...

    Why should someone be allowed to dictate to them how they should live?

    They are the ones that advance us...Socialism hold us back...

    Socialism is like running a race and preventing anyone from winning it.

    If you want to be poor and live at subsistence level then do so....but what gives you the right to hold others back?

    What gives you that right?

    Who appointed you master of the human race?

    And Socialism does not end class separation either....it just puts the wealth in the hands of fewer people...and they make it off the back and intellect of others.

    It's a hopeless political belief that does not help the poor.....it just steals their hopes, and gurantees subsistence level living. Yes You'll always be able to eat...and that's the only thing you'll always be able to do.


    On top of that...it is well do ented, even by the World Socialist Organization, that socialism cannot work unless all the world is Socialist...therefor it is the ultimate imperialism...the ultimate slavery, and the ultimate dictatorship. It is what wants to take over the world.

    I guess as long as the evil capitalists keep showing Socialists that you don't have to be a slave it kinda s up the Socialist movement.


    The way to help the poor is not to drag back the strong....it is with generosity, opportunity, and appeals to the conscience of your fellow man...not enforced subsistence living and state sponsored slavery.

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    And BTW...I am not a conservative...I just think the Democrats are seriously ed in the head these days as well as heavily anti-American...and the Republicans aren't....
    I'm pretty pissed off at the Republicans and would vote for an opposition party if I had a choice besides the anti-capitalist, anti-American, let's-just-curl-up-and-die-we-had-it-coming, anti-Christian Democratic party we have today.

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    I think it's sad that the comments of a doofus like Pat Robertson can cause people to defend Chavez.

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    you bring up Moore all the time!
    He's the leader of the Democratic Party...

    He has more political pull and voter backing in that party than any other person.


    dont you think it would be kind of lame to talk about pat robertson in all my arguments?
    If he was widely accepted as a mainstream Republican it wouldn't...

    And when he was, not too long ago, I damn sure wasn't a Republican and they weren't totally in control of the country.

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    So, whott, you back mullah Robertson's fatwa to murder Chavez because of VZ's connections with NK?

    No....can you read? At no point did I do that. I called a Robertson a bag and said he was no better than the Mullah's...except he wasn't calling for the assassination of an American President...

    Since I am an American...that make a little bit of difference to me...

    I know you don't understand that...but you aren't an American..so I can't help you there.


    Anyway...I don't advocate assassinating this guy...it will only raise his status...

    I advocate dumping him on his economic ass, since he is just about 100% dependent on American imports and exports....







    Why didn't the Repugs start a war with NK or Iran, which are real, serious, and increasing threats to USA and are supporters of terrrorism?
    Hey give us time...I don't think we're going to go to war with North Korea...they have nukes.


    They'll collapse when China goes Democratic....which won't be too far off.

    Iran we might not have to....

    Chavez we definitely don't have to...

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    listen chodesmuggler
    Moore is an author and a filmmaker, you know he's not "the leader" of , he reaches FAR less people than Sean Hannity
    nobody on this forum mentions him more than you, like i love to talk about tahoes and yukons you love to talk about Moore
    that would be like me always bringing up Robertson in all my arguements
    it would be stupid
    "widely accepted as a mainstream Republican"
    ?????????
    Bush isnt, Cheney isnt, Hannity isnt
    are you talking about Rudi Gulianni?

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    listen chodesmuggler
    Moore is an author and a filmmaker, you know he's not "the leader" of , he reaches FAR less people than Sean Hannity
    nobody on this forum mentions him more than you, like i love to talk about tahoes and yukons you love to talk about Moore
    that would be like me always bringing up Robertson in all my arguements
    it would be stupid
    "widely accepted as a mainstream Republican"
    ?????????
    Bush isnt, Cheney isnt, Hannity isnt
    are you talking about Rudi Gulianni?

    What?

    Moore is your leader...if you want me to stop saying that then stop parroting him in arguments...

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    how am i parroting him?

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    The problem is the guy does attract a lot of media attention, both in the US and worldwide.

    And you know, because whottt has told us so so many times, people outside the US are very stupid, and they will blame all the 300MM inhabitants of this country for what one guy says (i.e. they will hate on the US for this).

    It's not a US VS the World thing...it's a rich Vs the poor thing....

    The barbarians always end up storming the gate...and it's never hard for a dictator to come to power in a poverty stricken region of the world....all he has to do is promise them they'll eat....that's usually enough to get popular support...and then later when his hold on power his consolidated he will take away every other thing in their lives.


    Socialism is just about a flawless way to create a lastimg military dictatorship...

    If you can think of a better way then show it to me...


    But what can never be argued, and why it will ultimately fail...once a country has gone to total socialism and been freed....it will never return.


    There are only three groups of people that advocate Socialism....

    Rich guilty people( who want no part of giving up their wealth, but just want everyone else to not be poor).

    Impoverished people.

    Dictators....

    Only one of those groups actually resides in a Socialist Dominated country.


    Look at Chavez' heroes...

    Bolivar
    Castro
    Kim Jong Il...
    Mao

    They were all dictators....that's what he wants to be.


    But back to the original point...

    Hungry people will believe what ever you tell them if you are giving them food while you are saying it....and they usually have a lot of hatred to manipulate.


    All these Pakistani terrorists are the homeless children of Pakistan that get fed by the Mullah's...and in return for that food their lives get used up as they get turened into killing instruments in the cause of hatred and opression.

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    how am i parroting him?
    At this particular moment you aren't doing it....I'll let you know the next time I see you doing it...

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    well anytime i say anything bad about Bush, youll call it parroting
    and thats all the time

    youre a sean hannity parrot

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    Who is Sean Hannity?

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    The news anchor guy on Fox news?

    LMAO...I think not. That guy is a dyed in the wool conservative across the board...I most certainly am not. I just like the Republican foreign policy at this ed up time in world history when we face a bigoted and nihilistic religious/fascism movement.

    It's not reeeeeeeeal ing complicated for a non idiot/commie to see which is the better side and system to live under and how best to deal with a movement that wants to enslave us.

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    I'm pretty pissed off at the Republicans and would vote for an opposition party if I had a choice besides the anti-capitalist, anti-American, let's-just-curl-up-and-die-we-had-it-coming, anti-Christian Democratic party we have today.
    Correct. I voted for Bush but if the Dems had run anyone against him with some clear vision and even a semblence of clear policy for America instead of spending his entire campaign complaining about Bush's faults, they would reside in the White House today. He failed miserably to define what he meant when he habitually claimed that "I have a Plan!"


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    Pat Robertson Backs Off Assassination Call

    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

    Published: August 24, 2005

    Filed at 5:03 p.m. ET

    VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (AP) -- Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson insisted Wednesday that he did not call for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, despite comments broadcast on his program two days earlier.

    ''I didn't say 'assassination,''' Robertson said Wednesday on his Christian Broadcast Network show ''The 700 Club'' about remarks reported by The Associated Press and other media outlets.

    ''I said our special forces should 'take him out.' 'Take him out' could be a number of things including kidnapping.

    ''There are a number of ways of taking out a dictator from power besides killing him. I was misinterpreted by the AP, but that happens all the time.''

    But a video of Monday's telecast shows that Robertson's exact words were: ''You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war, and I don't think any oil shipments will stop.''

    He continued: ''We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.''

    When the AP called Robertson on Tuesday for elaboration, spokeswoman Angell Watts said Robertson would not do interviews and had no statement about his remarks. On Wednesday, Watts did not respond to two telephone messages, three pages and a fax seeking further comment.

    Chavez, whose country is the world's fifth-largest oil exporter, has emerged as one of the most outspoken critics of President Bush. He accuses the United States of conspiring to topple his government and possibly backing plots to assassinate him. U.S. officials have called the accusations ridiculous.

    On Tuesday, the State Department called Robertson's remarks ''inappropriate.''

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    [QUOTE=mookie2001]listen chodesmuggler
    Moore is an author and a filmmaker, you know he's not "the leader" of , he reaches FAR less people than Sean Hannity
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    um..yeah..just an author and filmmaker who gets to sit next to a former US President at the Democratic National Convention. yeah...no one of any consequence pays attention to Moore.

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    Look at Chavez' heroes...

    Bolivar
    Castro
    Kim Jong Il...
    Mao

    They were all dictators....that's what he wants to be.
    Do you know who Simon Bolivar was?

    Google it up. He was no dictator. He is the equivalent to America’s George Washington. He fought against the Spanish in the early part of the XIX Century. He is called Libertador of manyof the northern countries in S. Americas just as Jose de San Martin is the Libertador for the southern countries.

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    Wow, and that man talks to god, so we should probably listen to him. Religious extremists are gonna this country.

    And your plan is?????

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    [QUOTE=Nbadan]Media Matters Calls on ABC Family to Discontinue Robertson Broadcasts



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    Their hypocrisy is beyond belief. How low are they willing to go?[/QUOTE]

    Gee, not as low as the dimm-o-craps

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