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    Still didn't change that he required a very specific skill set of players to play around him.

    Bird, Magic and Duncan all won with a more diverse group of players around him.
    Yeah, MJ needed a PG, PF, C and SF to play next to him.

    MJ's weak like that.

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    Still didn't change that he required a very specific skill set of players to play around him.

    Bird, Magic and Duncan all won with a more diverse group of players around him.

    Where am I dogging MJ? I am not agreeing that he is the greatest of the greatest and has no peers.

    I am not even dogging MJ.

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    Yeah, MJ needed a PG, PF, C and SF to play next to him.

    MJ's weak like that.
    - MJ wouldnt have succeeded if he shared the backourt with a traditional PG
    - MJ needed a versatile wingman like Scottie, on the offensive end, Pippen was the one who made his teammates better; on the defensive end, Pippen was the one guarding the opponents best perimeter players, not Mike who was overrated as a defensive player
    - MJ couldnt have played with an All-Star center; it wouldnt have worked
    - MJ needed defensive rebounding PF's


    Duncan won with all star centers (Robinson) and ty centers

    He won with spot up shooters, but also with guards/forwards who can create their own shots

    He won with a pass first PG (Avery) and a ballhog PG (Enrique)

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    "I'm not dogging him. I'm just saying he's difficult to build around and he's not a nice teammate. And he's got weaknesses
    That's not dogging him, that's looking at all the teams Jordan played on and coming to a conclusion.

    Jordan had to tone down his game and allowed other players (Pippen, Grant) to shine for his first couple of championships. Before that, he was getting eliminated by Boston and the Pistons while scoring in record breaking fashion, and putting up historical stats.

    Pippen and Jackson obviously were keys, but players like Grant, Cartwright, and Paxson often times do not get the credit they deserved.

    Yeah, MJ needed a PG, PF, C and SF to play next to him.

    MJ's weak like that.
    He required specific types of each position to play next to him. It really is no coincidence that Jordan is the only alpha SG in NBA history who ever won it all without a dominant big, and the reason is simply the game is built to benefit big guys. Centers (Mikan, Wilt, Russell, Jabbar) have always helped teams win, and even with the rule changes in the league the last few years, there really hasn't been any alpha shooting guards who won it all without a dominant big (Wade came the closest, I suppose).

    Pointing that out isn't dogging him, it's talking about the realities of the game. So if I were to build a team from scratch, with no assurances that I can get a Pippen and or a Jackson, I will go with players like Magic, Jabbar, Bird, or even Duncan, knowing full well that I have a better chance to get the other pieces easier than those required around Jordan.

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    You've got nothing tangible to back any of that tldr stuff.

    If you want to keep nitpicking, go for it.

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    You've got nothing tangible to back any of that tldr stuff.

    If you want to keep nitpicking, go for it.
    You probably didn't read the back up stuff because of you ADHD.

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