Spurs: tbh, was the Enrique-led era the weakest stretch of TD's Spurs?

[TDMVPDPOY]

Lol Brazil deflecting

Where was Enrique last 3 years in the playoffs?
Where was he h2h against top pg last 3 years?
Lol struggling against every wingman scoring on him cause he plays no defence

[Brazil]

Manu was the number one option in '08, in '09 he got injured, in '10 Manu was the man coming into the playoffs again (if I remember correctly Tony had to come off the bench at the start of the playoffs) and in '11 he was still the go to guy when we got eliminated against Memphis in the first round.

In 08-09, Manu has been injured half of the year

In 09-10, Tim was still a 18 / 10 guy and offense was mostly going through him still

In 10-11 is a toss up between Tony and Manu imho but why not there... so Manu "led" the Spurs one year... again nothing to characterize an era of anything... Parker led-Spurs is 2 years...

It was / is Tim's team, Tony and Manu took over a bit from 2010, time for the young guy Kawhi to set up a new long era

[Brazil]

Lol Brazil deflecting

Where was Enrique last 3 years in the playoffs?
Where was he h2h against top pg last 3 years?
Lol struggling against every wingman scoring on him cause he plays no defence

read the posts got... you will see I'm not deflecting anything

[DAF86]

In 08-09, Manu has been injured half of the year

In 09-10, Tim was still a 18 / 10 guy and offense was mostly going through him still

In 10-11 is a toss up between Tony and Manu imho but why not there... so Manu "led" the Spurs one year... again nothing to characterize an era of anything... Parker led-Spurs is 2 years...

It was / is Tim's team, Tony and Manu took over a bit from 2010, time for the young guy Kawhi to set up a new long era

From '08 to '11 Manu was clearly the number one option on offense when playoffs time came around except '09 when he got injured.

[TDMVPDPOY]

10/11 Gino broke hand 4 Enrique to show what he can do,

Lol outplayed by 3 scrubs in a sweep

[Brazil]

From '08 to '11 Manu was clearly the number one option on offense when playoffs time came around except '09 when he got injured.

during that span he never led the team in FGAs neither in apg or usage %

but whatever this does not change the whole picture, he led one or two years, parker one or two years... at the end there is no manu or tp era per say so for me the premises of the thread is wrong.

[ElNono]

For the rest in 11, Parker was right to say Spurs with and co were done being contenders... not a lot of people was thinking FO was capable to put together a team capable to pull this out tbh

why are you trying to spin what he said?...

"We have to be realistic. It was kind of our last chance this season because Tim (Duncan) and (Manu) Ginobili are getting older," Parker said.

It's ok, he threw his teammates under the bus, but we already knew he's a terrible teammate, tbh. No big deal.

And yeah, the Kawhi's trade had desperate written all over it. They basically traded Pop's favorite player at the time for a complete unknown. It's the only time in the TD era I remember the Spurs trading up on the draft.

[Brazil]

why are you trying to spin what he said?...

"We have to be realistic. It was kind of our last chance this season because Tim (Duncan) and (Manu) Ginobili are getting older," Parker said.

It's ok, he threw his teammates under the bus, but we already knew he's a terrible teammate, tbh. No big deal.

And yeah, the Kawhi's trade had desperate written all over it. They basically traded Pop's favorite player at the time for a complete unknown. It's the only time in the TD era I remember the Spurs trading up on the draft.

I'm not spinning anything
at your terrible's teammate

Facts have been proving him wrong like many others tbh... Tim production took a big hit at that time, maybe you are one of the few that predicted not only Duncan would stop the bleeding at 34-35 y/o but would be better at 38 y/o playing more minutes... Nonostradamus... You also obviously predicted that without tanking for a first round draft and by trading George freaking Hill a PG averaging 2 apg, Spurs would get a FMVP playing at LBJ level in his second year during a nba finals... kuddos tbh...

Now if your point is saying he should have shut up yeah I agree 100%, he should have shut up... this does not make him a terrible teammate saying Tim and Manu are getting older. ing Barry's wife that was being a terrible teammate. All in all during all these years, if Parker was that terrible he would not have survived under Pop and Tim management (exibit a being Steph Jackson throwing your Manu under the bus).

[Brazil]

And I disagree on the notion of desperate move... Spurs were looking for a SF for a long time, filling this need was obviously priority number one, it failed with and went great with Kawhi.

[ElNono]

Facts have been proving him wrong like many others tbh... Tim production took a big hit at that time, maybe you are one of the few that predicted not only Duncan would stop the bleeding at 34-35 y/o but would be better at 38 y/o playing more minutes... Nonostradamus... You also obviously predicted that without tanking for a first round draft and by trading George freaking Hill a PG averaging 2 apg, Spurs would get a FMVP playing at LBJ level in his second year during a nba finals... kuddos tbh...

Ya, he missed the mark completely on that one, no need to make up stuff about RJ, tbh... not everyone can be Nonostradamus, tbh, it's understandable...

Now if your point is saying he should have shut up yeah I agree 100%, he should have shut up... this does not make him a terrible teammate saying Tim and Manu are getting older. ing Barry's wife that was being a terrible teammate. All in all during all these years, if Parker was that terrible he would not have survived under Pop and Tim management (exibit a being Steph Jackson throwing your Manu under the bus).

at your terrible's teammate

I'm calling a spade a spade, tbh... there shouldn't be any shame or surprise about it after what he did to Brent... I don't think that's a negative on Tony either, a lot of NBA players have pussy on the side, tbh...

[Spurs 4 The Win]

To clarify the stupidity I am reading, this team was led by Tim Duncan without question through 2007, the team was built around him, not Manu. In 2008-2009, It was more of a Parker/Duncan mix. In 2010, Manu started to emerge as a viable first option with Duncan's decline and was the first option in 2011. Then it was/ and still is Parker 2012-2014. Its not a knock against Manu that he was only the first option for a season, its just hard to do when you are a sixth man, and shows how unselfish and great he really is.

[ElNono]

And I disagree on the notion of desperate move... Spurs were looking for a SF for a long time, filling this need was obviously priority number one, it failed with and went great with Kawhi.

desperatePERIOD. Again, first time I recall the Spurs trading up in the draft, handing out a known player Pop loved for an unknown...

I'm just hoping now that Kawhi has proven his worth, the terrible teammate doesn't alienate him, tbh...

[Brazil]

Ya, he missed the mark completely on that one, no need to make up stuff about RJ, tbh... not everyone can be Nonostradamus, tbh, it's understandable...





I'm calling a spade a spade, tbh... there shouldn't be any shame or surprise about it after what he did to Brent... I don't think that's a negative on Tony either, a lot of NBA players have pussy on the side, tbh...

your terrible teammate was directed to the quote about being done and my was directed to that... not only you are nonostradamus but you are also a cat always falling on your feet...
you cannot say I'm not helping you to get it right... if you go on the terrible teammate road, use the Barry's wife incident indeed

most nba players I'm sure too have pussies on the side, they are not just dumb enough to not erase freaking sms or ing a teammate's wife... well some are worst and teammate's mothers to be fair to Parker...

[Brazil]

desperatePERIOD. Again, first time I recall the Spurs trading up in the draft, handing out a known player Pop loved for an unknown...

I'm just hoping now that Kawhi has proven his worth, the terrible teammate doesn't alienate him, tbh...

BTW hats off brah

you went fishing and declaring it in the OP "this is clearly a very emotional subject for certain Spursfans, so I'm gonna keep it here." but and you have to recognize it your bait was done quite poorly with this story about Parker era from 2008 that did not exist and yet because I'm dumb as you got what you paid for

hats off even though you are not doing anything special I'm doing it really to myself

still good job, I need to step up my game

[Brazil]

To clarify the stupidity I am reading, this team was led by Tim Duncan without question through 2007, the team was built around him, not Manu. In 2008-2009, It was more of a Parker/Duncan mix. In 2010, Manu started to emerge as a viable first option with Duncan's decline and was the first option in 2011. Then it was/ and still is Parker 2012-2014. Its not a knock against Manu that he was only the first option for a season, its just hard to do when you are a sixth man, and shows how unselfish and great he really is.

shhh don't fitting OP agenda, keep it quiet

[ElNono]

your terrible teammate was directed to the quote about being done and my was directed to that... not only you are nonostradamus but you are also a cat always falling on your feet...
you cannot say I'm not helping you to get it right... if you go on the terrible teammate road, use the Barry's wife incident indeed

most nba players I'm sure too have pussies on the side, they are not just dumb enough to not erase freaking sms or ing a teammate's wife... well some are worst and teammate's mothers to be fair to Parker...

ElNono said:
It's ok, he threw his teammates under the bus, but we already knew he's a terrible teammate, tbh. No big deal.

You're just figuring out I was talking about the Barry incident? Maybe I need to spell things out for you, tbh...

[ElNono]

Nonostradamus spot on again with the very emotional subject call...

Luckily we were able to have a non-biased, non-emotional conversation on the subject in the 1st page, tbh...

[Brazil]

Nonostradamus spot on again with the very emotional subject call...

Luckily we were able to have a non-biased, non-emotional conversation on the subject in the 1st page, tbh...

call it a day tbh

[ElNono]

apologize if feelings were hurt during the course of this thread, tbh... it was just a retrospective on the Spurs... nothing personal, tbh

[jeebus]

TP's reign of terror is worse than the 4 games Antonio Daniels was the starting pg. Charlie Ward > Parker. Avery Johnson on the Nuggets > Parker. Van Exel > Parker. Speedy Claxton today > Parker.

[Sean Cagney]

Not even close. After Jaren Jackson stopped giving a and they changed the rules the 1999-02 era before Manu and Tony was clearly the worst. AJ, Antonio Daniels, Derek Anderson, and Steve Smith were your backcourt. Samaki Walker and Malik Rose's corpse got significant minutes. that Knicks trade doe.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2001.html

We had CHEROKEE PARKS getting mins for Gods sakes in the 02 playoffs . That team Tim lead to the 58 wins that year was pretty damn bad! I use that anytime any LA fan says Tim always had a team around him, well that was a patched together team with a 36 year old Broken down Robinson and they won 58 games that year and gave LA trouble in round two. You tell me Tim was not the true MVP in 02 and I would laugh at you.