Yeah, but that's why I'm saying I'm not sold on either. I mean, Lebron has 5 Finals, you know he's going to be there, outside of that, nothing looks clear cut, IMO. Marion is washed up, Pau will probably get there in his last legs, Varejao is a choker... Bulls are riding Jimmy Butler, who wasn't there in '11... unless Cleveland really figure things out, the East is wide open...

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