NBA: The 10's: The age of passing

[Killakobe81]

Also players like rodamn with bulls and Love with Wolves ignore defensive assignments and rotations to for rebounds. those are bad plays too. (Pistons rodman almost never did that)

[ambchang]

you know that's not how it works most of the time, right?

How does it work most of the time?

[Raven]

How does it work most of the time?

the player that moved the ball do not get the assist. especially if it's on the perimeter, if it's in the post yes they can give it. This is not really the point though, my point was that you can't use assists as a measure for ball movement.

[ambchang]

the player that moved the ball do not get the assist. especially if it's on the perimeter, if it's in the post yes they can give it. This is not really the point though, my point was that you can't use assists as a measure for ball movement.

Why not, that's an assist. It has been and always will be an assist.

But yeah, assists does not measure ball movement, I don't dispute that.

[Chris]

I agree an evolution has happened. The game when played through passing, screens and picks is a lot more fluid and when all 5 players are threats (not in the traditional, they can all break a dude down one on one) but through spacing and specializing. This is what the Spurs have been able to do when their traditional one on one threats Duncan, Manu and Parker have regressed due to mileage and wear and tear. I swear, last year's Spurs run as a bball fan was the best I've seen in a long time.

Yet you still support the biggest chucker of all time. I don't get it.

[jimbo]

Why not, that's an assist. It has been and always will be an assist.

But yeah, assists does not measure ball movement, I don't dispute that.

So can you go ahead and state the point of this thread in one concise sentence then? I'm missing it after that concession.

[hater]

But yeah, assists does not measure ball movement, I don't dispute that.

goaline moved 30 yards. flag on the play

[Medvedenko]

Yet you still support the biggest chucker of all time. I don't get it.

Game recognizes game. Also, there' still more ways to skin a cat.

[ambchang]

So can you go ahead and state the point of this thread in one concise sentence then? I'm missing it after that concession.

goaline moved 30 yards. flag on the play

I really have to learn to use blue font.

[Franklin]

2nd chance scoring doesn't generate no assists and it happens all the time whatever style you play imho.

[hyhy]

And wouldn't assists come from ball movement and finishing of play then? In an extreme situation, if a team scores every single point on ball movement, there should be 100% assists to FGM ratio because any points scored would have been a result of a pass that directly led to a score. While a team that scored every single point on isolation play would not have 100% assists to FGM ratio, because some points would be scored on iso kickouts, while others would be finished by the player on isolation play.

While pure iso ball does not mean a 0% assist to FGM ratio, it certainly would be less than 100%.



Yes, it was answered:

OH so your top team is not the best team in the league, but the team with the best assist ratios. Wow so it means that the teams with better assist ratios score less than the average team throughout all the eras

[jimbo]

I really have to learn to use blue font.

Can you try writing a clear, concise, topic sentence out first? It might help, I'm a little slow.

I mean if you're just ing around, then who cares? Why respond at all?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

You can't use assists to FGM to measure passing and ball/player movement. It's extremely flawed.

Passes per minute and feet traveled by a player per minute are the stats you'd be looking for and they're still flawed but a better indicator. Also, difficult to find stats for this for past seasons. If I remember correctly the Spurs led the league in both last season, but Bobcats, Lakers and Philly were in top 5 so take it for what it's worth.

[ambchang]

OH so your top team is not the best team in the league, but the team with the best assist ratios. Wow so it means that the teams with better assist ratios score less than the average team throughout all the eras

Could be, could be pace as well.